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Is This a Good Deal??

Here is a local tractor for sale good deal or not??

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That's at least decent. I wouldn't have a problem spending that money for that tractor, provided is looks as good in person, as it does in the pic.
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That 800 hour statement is likely what the hour meter says, but the hour meter could have been replaced.

If you go to look at it, ask the owner to not start it before you get there and verify that the engine is indeed cold before you try to start it. If it starts easily when cold then I would go for it. If it's already warmed up when you get there then you'll have to trust your gut as to the honesty of the seller if he says that it starts easily when cold.

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If it's anything like the Yanmar in my x595 it will start with a bump when warm and a revolution or two even when it's below freezing. Key thing is to give the glow plugs enough time to do their job before cranking the engine. Wait at least 4 or 5 seconds after the key is in the "on" position before turning it to the momentary "start" position. 800 hours means this machine is still a toddler.
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Wonder why the tractor look better than the deck?
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Here is a local tractor for sale good deal or not??

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace...2910923264264/
Just a bit up the road from me...
Do you need this type of tractor? Are you just cutting grass and how much.
While the yanmar is a great engine and can last a lifetime with minimal maintenance and repairs, you can probably get this for 2300-2500 but you can buy a lot of other mowers for this much money.
I hate working on those. Too heavy for me.
I had a LA170 I think it was a few years ago...I know not even the same class of machine but it had a 48 and you can get 50 and 54's now I think.

I bought it used around 2010 with 165 hrs on it and it looked brand new.
Got a steal on it for 450.00 as part of a 3 item purchase.. I know that's a lot less than what it should have been as I sold it for 1200-1400 after shining in up a bit.
It had Kohler Command vtwin.
I could cut a lot of grass with a mower like that for a long time and it half the price at a regular normal deal.

I can buy a lot of mowers for 450-750 and that would be 4-5 mowers before I get to the price that super heavy duty JD diesel will cost.

I personally prefer zero turns to tractors for cutting grass and I barely even cut grass. They cost more but I can get them for 1200-1500 working well or like I prefer to do...600-800 that need a carb cleanout or something.
I bought my current Woods Mow n Machine 1991 model made by Grasshopper in 2008 for $750. It ran and moved but chugged and cut in and out with choke on when I bought it.
Cleaned out the rust flakes floating around in carb and it has run perfect ever since.

4 Wheel steering makes for a real tank and complicated things a lot if you do not need it and most people have never even operated a 4 wheel steering one so not a needed for most situations.

I'm just a practical cheapskate.
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That wouldn't last long here.

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That wouldn't last long here.
Everything costs more in NY.

It is odd how the region affects availability and prices.

I had a buy from Texas buy a mower from me in Ohio as he was in town for a some reason and figured he'd look while he was here.
He said they cut all year in TX so anything used is destroyed in 3-4 years and you have to wait for the dealer to get them in and pay full retail price.
No knocking off a couple hundred bucks or throwing in this or that.
You are lucky and waiting to get one!!
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super duper deal if as good as ad says. & pictures

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super duper deal if as good as ad says. & pictures
I bought my 425 used last year. If I'd found that 455 instead, I'd be all over it like a fly on poop. If the hours are legit, that's a great deal IMHO. I probably wouldn't even haggle.

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Well I made the two and a half drive one way to see this tractor first hand. The good news is the 801 hours shown were on a working hour meter but owners daughters boy friend who showed me the tractor thought maybe the instrument panel was replaced about six years ago. The tractor was parked in a grassy area in front of the daughters home. My nephew who went with me started the tractor up and it sounded fine, he let it warm up a little while and drove it around for a little while. While he was driving around I walked over to where the tractor had been setting and noticed a large amount of fresh oil on the grass and ground. I motioned for him to bring the tractor back and stop it away from the area where it had been setting. Once he parked the tractor and shut it off I crawled under the back as far as possible to try and see were the oil was coming from, it didn't take me long to realize the whole transmission case from were the axle housings bolt on to the bottom of the case on all four sides were covered with oil and it was dripping steadily on the ground. The owner had told the young man who showed me the tractor to let me know when i got there he would take $2,600.00 instead of the asking price of $2,700.00 he had listed. I told him to tell the owner if he would take it have have all of the trans axle leaks repaired I would give him the $2,600.00 to call me when it was repaired!! I just checked and the post has been taken down, the daughter told me when I made the arrangements to see the tractor that some else was coming later that day to see the tractor. They may not have noticed all the oil under the tractor or they weren't worried about the repair cost!!

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From what I have read, leaks at that point are pretty common and not that hard to fix. I would have tried to use it as leverage for a better price, but not been afraid of it.
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Way too typical of what you normally find. Maybe it's just certain areas because I am in Ohio only about 20 minutes from Troy and that typically what you see people do. $100 off!! Are you kidding me??
I would have told him it's pretty obvious that the machine doesn't have 800 hours on it and more than likely he knows that and wouldn't argue when you said it as fact. Then I would tell him how much a John Deere dealership would charge to fix the oil leak. I'm guessing about 700 off the top of my head. I would tell him you'll be lucky to get 1700 for it the way it sits.
Then if I really wanted the machine I wouldn't have given him a dime over 2200 for it but would have offered 1900 first and went up from there. I am an ultimate cheap skate and always like to ask them to take less but there have been a few times where the sellers are just so honest and something's such a good deal I just pay the money and get out of there before they change their mind. However, when you show up obviously people are trying to hide issues like parking on grass and everything else and they know there are problems but they're not telling you then it is my job to beat them down on price as much as possible. Even if I don't buy it it is my job to point out every single flaw in the machine and everyone else to do the same that way somebody will eventually get a better deal.
Anything that old or something you had for 8 or 10 years... You should have consider yourself already have gotten all your money worth out of it. This is how it always works are all of my purchases but I always buy everything used so it takes me a lot shorter time to get my money's worth out of it. Anything I sell an item I have for is pure bonus cash. Pretty much everything I have ever purchase I have gotten more than my money's worth out of if not many times over. I bought my grasshopper mower use for $750 11 years ago. I have no repair money in it whatsoever. Just oil changes and hydro oil changes. If it blows up tomorrow or I give it away I am way ahead of the game and I've got my money's worth out of it. I'm a cheapskate but greedy also so of course I would list it for sale for 500 or best offer and somebody would buy it for parts because the parts on it are worth that.
But I'm only a little greedy. Some people would hold out for 450 for 3 years and waste lots of time. I would take the first decent offer over 300 because anything is an absolute freebie bonus in my opinion.
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I'm the ultimate cheapskate. Most everything that I purchase (consumables excluded) is used. By the time that I'm ready to rid myself of it, it's not worth more than scrap price. Even then, I'll salvage any parts that I think I may need in the future beforehand.
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I'm the ultimate cheapskate. Most everything that I purchase (consumables excluded) is used. By the time that I'm ready to rid myself of it, it's not worth more than scrap price. Even then, I'll salvage any parts that I think I may need in the future beforehand.
I might have to fight you for that title. This is the ultimate way to do it. You buy low and find the best deal you can fix everything yourself and then your cost of ownership is almost nothing compared to people that buy new. Then when you're done with it if you just throw it away or sell it for scrap metal it's free money. But most of my stuff is still worth a decent amount of what I paid for it. I try my best to make money on everything I buy or own.
I have never purchase and never will purchase a brand new vehicle. Even if I won the massive Mega Millions and had 1.4 billion dollars for I could never spend it all oh, I would still not buy new. I would go buy a Hellcat that someone bought 6 to 9 months ago and decided they wanted to Corvette instead so they're going to lose 25 Grand on the sale. They know it and they accept that. But it was their baby for 6 months and it's better than the day they bought it. That's the one I would buy.
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