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post #1 of 14 Old 06-16-2019, 04:26 PM Thread Starter
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X-series 3-pt. hitch depth stop installation

Did you personally install a John Deere or Ruegg 3-pt. hitch on your X400/X500/X700 tractor and have difficulty attaching the depth stop rod mechanism?

When trying to install the Ruegg hitch on my X585, the right side of the depth stop pivot at the top of the rod does not fit into the half-moon-shaped cutout in the tractor frame (see photos). The pivot sits about 1/8" too high and is stopped by the top edge of the cutout. The pivot fits only if moved down and to the right, which means the left side of the pivot is no longer square in the slot in the left side of the frame. Tapping the depth control rod does nothing. It looks like I need to grind off 1/8" from the top of the frame cutout. The John Deere installation instructions don't state it is necessary to hammer or grind.

Did your depth stop simply slide into place or did you need to help it? Thanks.

One forum member did have to tap the rod with a hammer. I need more than just a tap:
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Re: X-series 3-pt. hitch depth stop installation

I'd tap it into place with a drift and hammer. no grinding, there an air gap on bottom, something else may be hanging up.

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Re: X-series 3-pt. hitch depth stop installation

I just installed a John Deere three point hitch on my x748. The instructions said in step 1 or 2 to make sure you screw the rod all the way in, otherwise it won’t fit. Double check that.

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Re: X-series 3-pt. hitch depth stop installation

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I'd tap it into place with a drift and hammer. no grinding, there an air gap on bottom, something else may be hanging up.
Thanks. This might be an option, tapping with the drift from the top of the pivot. I can't figure out what can be hanging it up. Right now I'm actually just trying to install the depth stop on its own to see if it fits.

If it's tight enough to require a hammer and drift, though, I may not be able to remove it to make the actual installation with the rockshaft ...

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Re: X-series 3-pt. hitch depth stop installation

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I just installed a John Deere three point hitch on my x748. The instructions said in step 1 or 2 to make sure you screw the rod all the way in, otherwise it won’t fit. Double check that.
Thanks. I do have the square nut on the depth control rod screwed up to the end of the threads. The depth control assembly comes pre-assembled from Ruegg. In fact, instead of a locknut above the spring, there is a slotted spring pin (roll pin) and washer to provide tension on the spring.

So with your John Deere hitch, the depth stop unit simply slid into the frame slots with no drama?

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Re: X-series 3-pt. hitch depth stop installation

looking close to picture #2 looks like the nut on rod is hitting the slot your trying to fill.

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Re: X-series 3-pt. hitch depth stop installation

I remember this being tricky on mine. There is a good post on here about installing the Ruegg on an X485 I think. He talks about this specific issue and I remember having to study it for some time before it kind of "fell" into place.
Once I got the trick it went pretty easy.


Yes, looking at the post you have that is the one.
Study what he says. I had to go over this several times but then it came together fine.
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Re: X-series 3-pt. hitch depth stop installation

Quote from above link.

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First, I mounted the Rockshaft and all the plates and components loosely and tried to mount the big bushing into the half moon. It wouldn't easily go into place.

So, I took it apart and set the Rockshaft in place without the bushings and with the backing plates just hanging on the shafts (they go on the inside of the frame).

Then I was able to get a better angle for the threaded rod and large bushing. I used a punch on the end of the threaded rod and gently drove the threaded rod and big bushing into place. The big bushing is machined with smaller diameters at each end. The side with the rod goes to the inside of the tractor.

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looking close to picture #2 looks like the nut on rod is hitting the slot your trying to fill.
Yes -- the pivot bushing is hitting the top of the right-side frame slot. I can't lower it because then the bushing is not square in the left-side frame slot.

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Re: X-series 3-pt. hitch depth stop installation

As suggested above, I will revisit the tips from the X485 installer. I previously read his tips and thought I followed them, but now I realize I missed a step. I need to PM him.

Someone on another forum suggested a bad alignment tolerance between the left and right frame slots is creating my problem. Wouldn't surprise me at this point, but I'm also trying to install an aftermarket hitch. I've yet to hear from anyone with an OEM John Deere 3-pt. who encountered the same problem.

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Re: X-series 3-pt. hitch depth stop installation

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As suggested above, I will revisit the tips from the X485 installer. I previously read his tips and thought I followed them, but now I realize I missed a step. I need to PM him. .
PM about to be answered, but I'll post this here as well - The rod in the pic is different than the one on my X485, so I don't know if it's exactly the same install.

I went back and read the post to refresh my memory and see if there was anything else I could think of. Honestly, it's been 7 years! I have a hard time remembering what I had for dinner last night.

Can't really think of anything else, other than it was a PITA, and took me a couple tries. I described pretty well what I did. Ultimately, with everything loose, and no bushings on the end the shaft, I put a punch on the end of the screw and carefully tapped it in.

Sorry I can't think of anything else.
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Re: X-series 3-pt. hitch depth stop installation

Thanks to everyone for their time and advice. I will attempt installation No. 3.
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Thanks to everyone for their time and advice. I will attempt installation No. 3.
Be patient with it! I had to work with it for a while to get it figured out and then a little light tap and it went ok. No force needed.
You'll get it. Once I got it to go then removing and adding it back was easy.
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Re: X-series 3-pt. hitch depth stop installation

Like my 4th-grade teacher always told me: "Patience is a virtue."

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