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post #16 of 35 Old 06-12-2019, 09:11 PM
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Re: What Is Wrong With The Lawn Tractor Batteries:

Batteries are spendy. As soon as I have a machine that eats a battery it gets a cut off switch. Every boat if it doesnt already have one gets one from the start.

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Batteries can be hit or miss. some last for many years and some last months. Only a a few companies make the batteries and change the label. I have had best results with Interstate.


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post #18 of 35 Old 06-13-2019, 01:54 AM
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I put a car battery in my Power King 2414 garden tractor. It seems to be working pretty well. Those little tractor batteries seemed light weight to me. I have 550 CCA in my battery. My 10 amp charger in my tractor seems to be keeping the car battery up.

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post #19 of 35 Old 06-13-2019, 08:05 AM
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Re: What Is Wrong With The Lawn Tractor Batteries:

To the original poster - you never answered my question. Did you leave the key in the run position when it ran out of gas and you went to the service station to get some more?

The fact that putting it on the charger for two hours allowed it to start the tractor points toward something draining the battery rather than the battery actually being bad. Take the battery to any auto parts store and they will load test it for you for free.

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To the original poster - you never answered my question. Did you leave the key in the run position when it ran out of gas and you went to the service station to get some more?

The fact that putting it on the charger for two hours allowed it to start the tractor points toward something draining the battery rather than the battery actually being bad. Take the battery to any auto parts store and they will load test it for you for free.

The key "wasn't" left in the run position when I got off the tractor. When I refilled the tank after it ran out of fuel, the engine cranked several times as it does allowing fuel to the carburetor, and the starter no longer was getting any voltage. That is a signal the Time Delay or the Interlock Circuit Board went out, as this has happen couple time in the past 20 years I've owned the tractor.

If I keep the battery fully charged it starts, but, that only lasts a few hours and a recharged is needed.

So, it appears the battery is at fault here, and the same problem happen on my Z710A this past winter.
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Re: What Is Wrong With The Lawn Tractor Batteries:

Is it possible that like JD, Exide has sold the rights to its name to a low quality, high volume manufacturer that serves the "box store" throw away type market?

I'm no expert, just observing the comments here, and noting the similarity between a JD dealer tractor and the big box tractors sold with JD stickers on them.

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^ Incorrect. Deere didn't sell the name "Deere" to someone else who makes low-quality riding mowers. So no comparison there at all. Deere makes those tractors too and also sells them through their dealer network. They're identical whether you buy a 100-series at a box store or at a dealer.

Let's stay on topic with batteries. And yes, there are three main manufacturers of batteries and probably hundreds of brand names stuck on them and varying levels of quality/parts inside.

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I guess my point was that under a common trade name, there are distinct differences in the quality/longevity of product. Batteries was the subject, observing the same distinction among lawn tractors was just a comparison. Sorry if my observation caused any concern.

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Re: What Is Wrong With The Lawn Tractor Batteries:

Have you tried disconnecting the battery when the tractor's not running to see if it still discharges? There could be something drawing the battery down even with the key off.

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Re: What Is Wrong With The Lawn Tractor Batteries:

I've seen OEM batteries last very long time and always seem to last longer than a replacement..
Had a OEM battery labeled Toyota last for 17 years and I re-placed it before it completely failed.

I did not replace it with a Toyota labeled replacement because price was approx. $50 higher than an eq aftermarket and I suspected that the new bat was not really a exact OEM equivalent of the original factory bat.
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One of the problems facing battery manufacturers is to keep costs down for the big box store buyers is meeting their price points. To do that, many are now using recycled lead rather than virgin lead since there are only 3 lead processors left operating in the US now due to the EPA regulation crackdown several years ago. The recycled lead comes from China in most cases and the purity is questionable at best. The quality of the lead in a lead acid battery effects the longevity of the battery.
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I'm 100% convinced that it's luck of the draw!
My JD battery lasted 2 years.
My next (Walmart) battery 4 years
The current Walmart battery 4 years and going strong.
PS - I use my machine summer mow and winter blow
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I had bad luck with several Exide batteries in the past,that were bought at K-Mart new,they died within a year ,just after the free replacement warranty was expired..
From the beginning they never seemed to crank "briskly" and could be discharged quickly if you had a flooded engine or had to crank it awhile before it would start..

I have noticed many batteries now only have a 90 day "warranty".most of the ones sold at Tractor Supply and some of the "economy" batteries sold at Walmart and other box stores no longer offer a warranty more than a few years now no matter how much you paid for it..

I bet some batteries sit for a long time on a shelf waiting to be sold,and I wouldn't be surprised if the date code labels simply get "updated" so they will appear "fresh"..

I have heard from several mechanic friends they have even had some Interstates go sour quickly and it wasn't due to a charging system defect or "drain" from sitting..the quality is going downhill on many "good brand names" lately..

One of the mechanics had an Interstate display and kept several batteries "in stock",he got disgusted enough with their excuses when he told how some of the batteries were "not right from the start" and got tired of them saying "sorry" but not backing up their products when one did fail "early" ,so he told the guy who comes every month or so to rotate the batteries and replace any that were sold to take them back,and shove 'em!..

I'm about to buy a new battery for my J-D L110 and I'm most likely going to get a "Ever-Start" from Walmart,much as I dislike going to that store..

I feel it is a crap shoot nowadays whether you'll get a good battery,or any other auto part no matter who's name is on the box,you just end up paying more for the "good brand name" while the part in the box is likely the same one you could buy cheap and may even be made at the same factory..so you may as well buy the cheapest one ..
I rarely get more than 2-3 years out of any lawn tractor battery no matter who's name is on it..the Walmart "cheap" battery is only $22 with the core exchanged and is 230 cca,most of the costlier ones at Lowes,Home Depot and Tractor Supply are less powerful,some are only 160 amps and cost $35!..


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Re: What Is Wrong With The Lawn Tractor Batteries:

Just my opinions here:

If you want to save some money on a battery, go buy the Walmart brand that fits in your battery tray.

If you want to buy a really good battery, go buy the Sears DieHard Gold.
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Re: What Is Wrong With The Lawn Tractor Batteries:

Many people will start their tractor, move it five feet and shut her down. This puts absolutely nothing back into the battery after starting.
Starting takes many amps out while charging is relatively slow. Watch how you operate. Generally I figure a start will take 3 to 5 minutes of running with the throttle set at least at 2000 rpm.

Too many of those "SHORT STARTS" and your battery will be weak. It's like your bank account. Too many $5 withdrawals and you're looking at a major deposit!

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