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X748 3PH question..

Hello all.

I'm in the market for a 3PH for my 2011 X748, talked to the dealer yesterday.. part BUC10169 for $735 plus installation if I want it. Service said the hydraulic cylinder doesn't need to be relocated..

Talked to Bill at Ruegg, he said I do need to relocate it, $475 plus (I believe said) $85 for the relocation kit plus $35 shipping..$595 total.

So... do conflicting information and was wondering if anyone could let me know if they needed the relocation kit?

Also, I'm leaning towards OEM, but if anyone with real world experience would offer an opinion, I'd appreciate it!

I read a few threads about it, but still confused.. (Not really a shocker..LOL)

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Re: X748 3PH question..

I like my Deere three point and yes cylinder will need relocated


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Re: X748 3PH question..

Yep it has to move. I have a Deere hitch on my x748, but a ruegg on my 332 and it's identical to Deere for all intents and purposes. Id buy from him again.

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Re: X748 3PH question..

The Deere 3 point does require the cylinder to move, there is a reciprocal arm that goes back to the deck lift so the cylinder can operate both the mid and rear lift arms, with a mechanical rear lockout/height adjustment connecting them. I had my dealer install mine when I bought the tractor.

For the price difference, if the Ruegg installs the same way, I'd go that route. Aren't the lift arms straight on the Ruegg setup? Never have understood why the Deere arms are bent so many times.

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Re: X748 3PH question..

I had to relocate the cylinder on my x748. It isn't too hard to do it yourself. I did mine in an afternoon. The only bad part is if you have large hands some of the bolts/nuts you have to attach are in some pretty tight places. I might have invented some new curse words when I did mine.
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Re: X748 3PH question..

Thank you all for the replies.. I guess I just have to decide whether OEM or Ruegg.. I have it all apart for other work so now is the time to do it. I'm leaning toward OEM but I'll sleep on it and order one of them Monday morning. Thanks again!!

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Re: X748 3PH question..

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For the price difference, if the Ruegg installs the same way, I'd go that route. Aren't the lift arms straight on the Ruegg setup? Never have understood why the Deere arms are bent so many times.
The lift arms are bent because the back of the optional Curtis Cab will limit how high the rockshaft bracket for the top link will rotate. Because of the custom cab may be wise to make sure that the back of the cab does not interfere with the full range of both OEM and Ruegg rockshaft. Your custom cab rear may sit further down than the Curtis Cab.

When I had my x749 with Curtis cab, the oem bent lift arms were missing, but the BM23882 3 point rockshaft was on the x749. I ordered the arms from Ruegg and the straight arms did not give the same amount of lift, so had to get a local welder to cut and weld the last 6 inches at a 60 degree bend to get suitable lift. Notice Ruegg x4, x5 ad on Ebay specifically states that his 3 point will not fit on tractor with cab.
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The lift arms are bent because the back of the optional Curtis Cab will limit how high the rockshaft bracket for the top link will rotate. Because of the custom cab may be wise to make sure that the back of the cab does not interfere with the full range of both OEM and Ruegg rockshaft. Your custom cab rear may sit further down than the Curtis Cab.

When I had my x749 with Curtis cab, the oem bent lift arms were missing, but the BM23882 3 point rockshaft was on the x749. I ordered the arms from Ruegg and the straight arms did not give the same amount of lift, so had to get a local welder to cut and weld the last 6 inches at a 60 degree bend to get suitable lift. Notice Ruegg x4, x5 ad on Ebay specifically states that his 3 point will not fit on tractor with cab.

Thank you!! That really made up my mind and I just ordered OEM. I don't believe my custom cab goes lower than the curtis or limits how high the rockshaft will rotate, but I'm not going to chance it. Having the bend will also allow for a higher lift.

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Re: X748 3PH question..

My big tip to relocating cylinder is... after you install kit on cylinder and go to install cylinder on tractor. DO NOT attach cylinder to tractor first. The first thing you do is start hoses/lines finger tight, then attach cylinder to tractor then tighten hoses with wrenches


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My big tip to relocating cylinder is... after you install kit on cylinder and go to install cylinder on tractor. DO NOT attach cylinder to tractor first. The first thing you do is start hoses/lines finger tight, then attach cylinder to tractor then tighten hoses with wrenches


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Thats a tip I will take to heart! I installed the Auxhyd remote valve this weekend.. according to the instructions, theres a hose with coupler coming off the cylinder that you disconnect the hard tube and attach the supplied line to, but on mine the coupler is directly off the 45 degree coming off the cylinder..not easy access at all!.. if that makes sense..lol The kit is all installed except for that, I'm waiting for the 3ph to arrive at my dealer and I hope to tackle it this weekend..

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Laded 26" HDAPs for winter duty
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