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post #1 of 25 Old 04-28-2019, 06:34 PM Thread Starter
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X354 or X384

Hey all.

Newbie here. Finally upgrading from the box store L110 I bought almost 15 years ago.

Went to my local JD and 2 LT's I'm considering, the X354 or the X384.

I have just about an acre of property, 20 mature trees and around a 30 degree small culvert that I have to mow sideways. The L110 has made me nervous because it feels like it will tip on this small culvert.
My property also has some slope to it. These reasons are why I was thinking of the 4 wheel steer.
Any thoughts on these 2 LT's or perhaps I should consider another model??

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Re: X354 or X384

I'd go with the X384-- it has the K58 tranny vs the k46 in the 354. You can probably save yourself some money and go with the X380- it turns much tighter than L110. The 380 is also much more sturdy than L110 , bigger tires , more sturdy frame, etc so it will handle the culvert much better than L110 and I'll save someone the time, yes an used X7xx , X48 will work and cost much. much more ..LOL

Not saying rush, but JD running a 300 rebate on all X3xx series machines that expires end of April, you dont have to take delivery, but you do have to sign contract before end of april. If your L110 is still working ask dealer about trade in

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Thanks Tony! Spot on. I've done some research and from a price standpoint, I'm focused on the 300 series. If I was going to step up to a 700, then I'd buy a Walker Mower over a JD for that price.
Surprisingly for as much crap as the lower end Deere box store tractors get, mine lasted. That little L110 still runs. The deck is beat up enough now that I dont think I would get much for a trade. It was my first tractor back in the day.

I've been eyeing the 384 all along. I'll check out the 380 a little more as I've been thinking about 4 wheel and the trees. Any other thought9?
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No it appears you have done a great job of narrowing the focus on what you are interested in. Any of the X3xx are a considerable upgrade over the L110

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During the Deere sales, you can try tractors, try the X5xx series too. Especially if the dealer has slopes like you do. You may be surprised. I was when I drove bigger tractors not thinking about the weight. Do you plan to use it for snow or dirt? Then the diff lock in the X5xx or larger comes into consideration.

For mowing an acre, you don’t “NEED” an X7xx, but when/if you consider doing other things, the larger tractors have a place.

You will be amazed at how quickly and tight a Deere turns. Don’t dismiss power steering, it is amazing and if your wife will drive it, it will be appreciated. Although an 85 year old widow friend, slight of build, but strong for her size handles tractors without. It’s rather subtle, you don’t get as tired driving it, especially if you are maneuvering around a lot of things.

Will you be using it for leaf pickup? A bagger is nice, but I prefer a lawn vac so I don’t have to get on and off as often. It tends to make my body hurt more if/when I do.

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Re: X354 or X384

I've owned many different models and currently use a JD X390 which is a lot like the X380. It too has the K58 tranny and one-inch axles vs the 3/4-inch on the lower models. With hills and culverts, I would follow Tony's advice. Four wheel steer is not really necessary because the power steering of the X380 will more than make up any difference and reduce your exposure to another system to have issues with. The X500 series is a great line but will be overkill for your small property. It is good advice, however, to buy more than you need at the moment if you have future needs that may require a more versatile tractor.
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I've owned many different models and currently use a JD X390 which is a lot like the X380. It too has the K58 tranny and one-inch axles vs the 3/4-inch on the lower models. With hills and culverts, I would follow Tony's advice. Four wheel steer is not really necessary because the power steering of the X380 will more than make up any difference and reduce your exposure to another system to have issues with. The X500 series is a great line but will be overkill for your small property. It is good advice, however, to buy more than you need at the moment if you have future needs that may require a more versatile tractor.
I am guessing that was a Mistake In Your Post because the X380 doesn't have Power steering Only the X370, X390 & X394 have Power steering

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You're right, the 380 doesn't have PS. I was thinking that the 380 had taken over the 390 position on the newer models. I am always the last to know what new models have or have not because I never look at the latest models. However, one could be forgiven after reading this JD ad.

https://completeoutdoorequipment.com...9-a86a01028732

Read down where it talks about four-wheel steering and then says power steering.
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You're right, the 380 doesn't have PS. I was thinking that the 380 had taken over the 390 position on the newer models. I am always the last to know what new models have or have not because I never look at the latest models. However, one could be forgiven after reading this JD ad.

https://completeoutdoorequipment.com...9-a86a01028732

Read down where it talks about four-wheel steering and then says power steering.
Yep, they were mixing X300 series features into an X380 description. A little better information can be found here: https://www.deere.com/en/mowers/lawn...s/x300-series/
Down where it says COMPARE, but even then you can’t figure out all the differences.
Perhaps even check this out: https://www.deere.com/assets/publica...id=f04b823d#13 (just wish the print wasn’t so small). Better yet stop at a dealer and pick one up, maybe even have a salesman talk you through the differences.

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Re: X354 or X384

If you can swing it I'd suggest the x394. I have had one for two years and works great. My property is about the sounds of it like yours minus hilly terrain. I use the JD 44 inch snowblower on my tractor as well. All around good machine and the 4 wheel steering is nice if you have a lot of obstacles to mow around. Only negative I can think of besides the price is being a V twin it used more gas than the one lunger. Good luck as I was eyeing all the same models as you are.
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Thanks Tony! Spot on. I've done some research and from a price standpoint, I'm focused on the 300 series. If I was going to step up to a 700, then I'd buy a Walker Mower over a JD for that price.
Surprisingly for as much crap as the lower end Deere box store tractors get, mine lasted. That little L110 still runs. The deck is beat up enough now that I dont think I would get much for a trade. It was my first tractor back in the day.

I've been eyeing the 384 all along. I'll check out the 380 a little more as I've been thinking about 4 wheel and the trees. Any other thought9?
I think my Scotts L17.542 is very similar to your L110 - hp, cut width, steering, size. I went up to an X360 (replaced by X390) for more hp to run a snowblower so I didn’t have to walk on slick surfaces any longer, increased cut to 48”. I gave it to my son-in-law because he was having troubles with his Craftsman. My reasons for changing was to get EFI and shaft drive snowblower which I got in the X738. I could mow on steeper slopes with the X360, but now mow even more with my X738. I never felt AWS was worth having, since the X360 and the X738 turn very sharp and both much easier than the Scotts.

If I were trying to buy now, I would be looking right where you are, but having had the X360, I would definitely recommend power steering in either the X370 or X390 to get a little more hp. Unfortunately you have to go into the X590 to get into the EFI engine I think, which gives better starting when cold.

If you ever want a loader, it will take you into the JD X7xx series with non-JD loader, 1 Series w/ JD loader (that doesn’t mow as well), or into a Kubota BX to save some $.

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All.

I really appreciate your feedback, truly.
Great advice. Part of me looks at that old tractor and thinks I should just get a new deck and tires.
Cheaper in the front end.

I havent had the chance to drive any of the new models yet. Based on your feedback, think I'll step away from the AWS idea I had.
If there are any other models you think are great in that 300 line, for my size of property, please post.
You dudes are awesome!

Edit: not that it matters but I dont think I would get the power flow bagger. I generally mulch mow. My grass is pretty darn thick. I did buy the bagger for the l110 and was less then impressed as the chute was always stuck with grass.

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All.

I really appreciate your feedback, truly.
Great advice. Part of me looks at that old tractor and thinks I should just get a new deck and tires.
Cheaper in the front end.

I havent had the chance to drive any of the new models yet. Based on your feedback, think I'll step away from the AWS idea I had.
If there are any other models you think are great in that 300 line, for my size of property, please post.
You dudes are awesome!

Edit: not that it matters but I dont think I would get the power flow bagger. I generally mulch mow. My grass is pretty darn thick. I did buy the bagger for the l110 and was less then impressed as the chute was always stuck with grass.
Mulching is the most healthy for your lawn, but there are times when there’s just too much grass and it needs removed. Perhaps even a time like after thatching is a good time for a bagger or when picking up leaves. When the grass gets too long, you should mow in small increments or use a bagger. Unfortunately, any deck wider than 48” requires a power-flow unit, which I am not a fan of.

Good to not be in a hurry choosing something you will likely have another 20+ years.

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We've all been caught with rainy weather that prevented us from mowing in our usual sequence and the results are that the mowed grass does not mulch as normal. What I do is let the grass dry a bit and the re-mow along the grass lines that were left behind. It will then completely mulch the remaining grass and does not require a mowing of the entire lawn. Another technique I use in smaller areas with woodsy borders is to mow in an ever-expanding circle so that I am throwing the grass outward into the next to be mowed lane and then re-mow it as the circle grows. By the time I get to the woods, all of the clippings are either mulched or thrown into the woods and the mowed area looks like a golf course green. An added benefit is that the spiral cut makes an interesting look for my lawn.
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Hey all.

Want to thank you for your help.

Sealed the deal today. Bought a new X380. Just drove so well. They had a close out 18 brand new plus the manual mulch kit set me back 4,500. Excited for delivery.
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