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post #1 of 15 Old 04-18-2019, 10:19 PM Thread Starter
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Long story short my wife wanted a tractor to use around the yard, something to call her own. So, after looking for a couple of months I didn't find anything in green that was worth a **** within a couple of hundred miles of the Boston area. What I did find was a Kubota G2000-S in need of some minor work. The machine is in really good shape, but like all things found on CL there were some surprises, both good and bad. The good is that the 3 cylinder engine is one of the smoothest running small engines I have ever seen, and the transmission is rock solid and much more than capable. And the tranny is bigger than a K92, built like a tank, has an external spin on filter, dip stick to check the fluid level, and is shaft driven.

So the bad is what I need help with here, and by the way, I posted in the Kubota forum, but no replies in over 2 weeks. No brotherhood with those orange guys.

Anyway, I'm replacing the brakes, some hoses, and will change all of the fluids and filters. And, because the tractor is for driving and pulling her little cart only, I have removed the 54" deck. She loves the fact of having her own cart pulling tractor, so even without the brake fix she wanted to drive around to "get the feel" of the new machine.

I filled the tank, she drove around, and later that night I became very aware of the smell of gasoline. No guessing here, the tank has a leak. I drained the tank and the question is: What is the best way to repair a plastic fuel tank?? Sorry to bring the orange into this forum, but this is where I'll get the answers I need.

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Where is it leaking from? how is it leaking? You will have to most likely replace it, that means searching craigslist or ebay for it, if not then new. Trying to re-seam the leak could prove explosive (days to weeks to let it dry the fumes out). Not knowing what the tank is made of is another problem. I don't know if it could even be lined.

One photo shows it up in a line with others. So if this was brought from a dealer? Did they disclose the leak to you? If not, there are laws regarding sales and this could be an issue for the repair/replacement of the tank, but you will have to chase that down.

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Could be leaking from the grommet where the fuel line pick up goes into the tank. They are mounted on top of the tank
Can fill the tank half full w/o a problem, but when fuel reaches the grommet level or above, it leaks.
I have had to replace 2 on Simplicity machine. An easy fix, just replace the grommet.
Also a good time to replace the old fuel line since you have the fender pan off.
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Re: Orange problem

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Could be leaking from the grommet where the fuel line pick up goes into the tank. They are mounted on top of the tank
Can fill the tank half full w/o a problem, but when fuel reaches the grommet level or above, it leaks.
I have had to replace 2 on Simplicity machine. An easy fix, just replace the grommet.
Also a good time to replace the old fuel line since you have the fender pan off.
If you didn’t smell gas before you filled it, then it definitely is in the upper part of the tank and the grommet is a great place to start looking. I know, taking the pan off may be a bit of work, but the source will likely become evident when you do, since you can see more clearly. If the tractor sits longer, does the smell of gas diminish? If it does, the leak is even higher than the present fuel level. May even find the sender seal bad or something else that you can’t see with the pan on. May be as simple as a fuel line connection. I agree, if it’s the tank, I’d replace. Plastics are hard to fix especially with gas in it. Fuel level doesn’t even have to be up to the leak point, it will get there from the sloshing around when the tractor is moving. Check your fuel lines too or are you sure the gasoline smell is definitely coming from the rear of the tractor?

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Re: Orange problem

OK, problem solved, and here's what it was. I had ordered a tank off of Ebay that arrived today. While I was waiting for FedEx I tore off the rear fenders, did a thorough cleaning and pulled the tank. I inspected everything and found the return line outlet, used for diesel but plugged for gas, leaking at that plug. I replaced the rubber cap with 2" off fuel line 2 clamps and a bolt. Then I replaced the fuel filter and every piece of rubber hose in the fuel system with quality gas line. Problem solved.

Then I replaced the brake shoes and drum, lubed and greased the hell out of everything, fixed the parking brake, adjusted the idle, put on the new seat and hauled *** around the property for about an hour. What a nice well built quality machine, and strong as a bull.
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You will have to post a picture with your Deere next to it so that we don't toss you back to the "orange" forum!

Odd that you didn't get any response over there, I check a lot of their posts and seems pretty friendly all the time!

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I was surprised as well.

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Re: Orange problem

There are various plastic repair methods out there on the market.... How many of them will stand up to gasoline though, that I am unsure of. Depending on the type of plastic, something as simply as testors model cement may do the trick. It melts the plastic back together......

Find out where it is leaking from, and take it from there.

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There are various plastic repair methods out there on the market.... How many of them will stand up to gasoline though, that I am unsure of. Depending on the type of plastic, something as simply as testors model cement may do the trick. It melts the plastic back together......

Find out where it is leaking from, and take it from there.

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And thank you for yours as well.

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What year and model is that tractor? I can't tell from the pictures, can you send some close-ups of the engine? That looks like a GR series, but those had V-twin gas engines, the 3 cylinder is a diesel. However, from what I can see in your picture, looks like spark plug leads.

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OK, problem solved, and here's what it was. I had ordered a tank off of Ebay that arrived today. While I was waiting for FedEx I tore off the rear fenders, did a thorough cleaning and pulled the tank. I inspected everything and found the return line outlet, used for diesel but plugged for gas, leaking at that plug. I replaced the rubber cap with 2" off fuel line 2 clamps and a bolt. Then I replaced the fuel filter and every piece of rubber hose in the fuel system with quality gas line. Problem solved.

Then I replaced the brake shoes and drum, lubed and greased the hell out of everything, fixed the parking brake, adjusted the idle, put on the new seat and hauled *** around the property for about an hour. What a nice well built quality machine, and strong as a bull.
So where is this mystical “Return Line Outlet”? Would you post a picture? Smart to use one tank for all their tractors, gas or diesel, I guess. They make rubber end caps that would only require one clamp or a cable tie.
https://www.mcmaster.com/rubber-end-caps
That’s why I asked where it is. Low on the tank, definitely a clamp. High on the tank, maybe not. Expandable one would be nice, but 1/2” is the smallest.

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What year and model is that tractor? I can't tell from the pictures, can you send some close-ups of the engine? That looks like a GR series, but those had V-twin gas engines, the 3 cylinder is a diesel. However, from what I can see in your picture, looks like spark plug leads.
It's raining so pictures will have to wait. The tractor is a Kubota G2000S, 3 cylinder gas engine. 21HP, 45 ft lbs torque. Absolutely one of the smoothest running engines I've owned, and parts, rebuild kits, etc. are still available. I see them selling for $3K plus and for almost $10K when they were new. I bought this for the wife to pull her garden crap around with. About the same size as the X7xx series and the 4 wheel steering works great. The gas and diesel use almost all the same parts. The difference being injectors, glow plugs, and manifold of course.

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Cool. I bet it's a torquey devil; can't help with the gas leak, though.

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The reason your not getting help over at the orange forum is they very seldom have any problem to talk about...


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