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Pulling a Chipper (pictures and videos)

My JD x728 was integral to this entire project, so I present it here. I've lived at this house for over 30 years, and worked and walked in the woods that whole time. I made it a habit to toss brush into piles as I walked. In the past 10 years I've gotten more serious about my wood cutting for firewood, and much more serious about creating brush piles. I have more than 3 dozen piles scattered across a couple acres of woods. Recently my Daughter and her husband bought a nice property with a large Pine wood lot that hadn't been particularly maintained. Till my Son-in-law started gathering the ground brush and stacking it, he ended up with two very large brush piles. While I have plenty of room to just work around my brush piles, my Daughter (and hence her husband) wanted their piles gone. So, I decided to rent a nice Bandit 65xp chipper for the weekend and tackle some serious brush pile chipping, and as a side benefit, adding some chips to my cart paths.

The specs on the Bandit 65xp list it at 3000 pounds - doesn't look like it could weigh that much, but based on my real-time MPG indicator in my Tacoma - it is a serious load back there. This was the first towing in the new truck. It was obviously raining Friday afternoon when I picked it up.



But Saturday morning broke as a beautiful Spring day. As none of the brush piles at my home are accessible with the Truck, I switched the chipper over to the x728 for moving around in the woods from pile to pile:



And an action shot by my Forum famous photographer:




Yes, the GoPro was in operation for the Chipping:
(Shortened by 10x speed up with some music background)


That's my son providing single handed help (after 3 or 4 broken bones in right wrist he has days-weeks of significant pain and swelling, he is wearing a soft cast now and suffering, but out with his Dad anyway).

(And a not so short real speed - ok, I'm not all that speedy any longer either way)




Put in a full day, and still didn't get half my piles reduced to chips. But, Scout approves of the improved cart path surface, and this evening it is again raining, so the footing will be better tomorrow too:




Interesting side note - the jack stand on the tongue of the chipper did not lower the tongue far enough to set on my tractor hitch. This may be the first time in history that a scissor jack from a 1971 Datsun 240z has been used on a Bandit 65xp:



After a day of work at home, it was time to prep for a second day at my Daughter's place. So, I loaded the x728 on my just barely big enough utility trailer (refitted for hauling tractor and mulch from it's usual Motorcycle kit) And, just a quick video of the dare devil loading:




After unloading, my Grandson wanted to lead me on a quick tour of their property on his Deere (which needed a bit of a push on the hill):


Back there this morning with the Chipper, and held a quick safety inspection with my team:



Again, the x728 was the mule for placing the chipper at the piles in this pine woodlot:



With all the equipment I hauled in two loads, and then had to return this evening - well, let's just say I hope that GoPro is water proof, because it is still hanging on a tree at my Daughter's. So, no video from today. I have plenty more from Saturday if anyone didn't get their fill, check my channel on YouTube.

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Man! You guys are fast.
I have about an acre of woods that has a lot of deadfall. I hesitate to drive the tractor in there for fear of getting flats from all the tiny, broken off tree stumps under the leaves.
Thanks for the vids.

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Nice vids Jere! Seems like you got a nice workout in, got to play with some equipment, and spent some quality family time all in one shot!

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Re: Pulling a Chipper (pictures and videos)

Retrieved the GoPro pre-rain, loaded about an hour of video - and to spare you all, offer this 1 minute video that is very representative of the whole day:


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Very, very cool, Jere. My favorite part was you riding behind your grandson.

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Jere, question about hauling the chipper around with the x728, how much of a hill do you think you could safely handle with it? I was thinking of doing the same thing with my BX, but have a hill to go down and back up.


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Great vid as always Jere,

Man my back hurts just thinking about that much bending over.

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That is a great question, especially so if it really did weigh near 3000# as is listed on the Spec sheet. I was extremely cautious, and conciously sought the gentlest routes for both up and down. At my daughter's house the entire chipping event happened on a hill side. That last picture I posted was an accurate depiction of the hillside we were chipping on at my daughter's house. But I was able to use the paved driveway to pull up the hill, then more or less work across the side of the hill in the pines and back to the driveway to return to the turn-around. I had no problems with either up or down hills. I'd be more concerned with the down hill, but found the tractor (with full time all wheel drive) held back the load without need for brake. I was lucky to have one of the driest weeks in over a year ahead of my days, so the track conditions were excellent. I don't actually know the orange tractor line-up, so I am not familiar with the BX. My JD as loaded with weight, grapple, and operator was underweighted vs the chipper. I will do this again, and again be extra cautious. I can't really make a recommendation.

Curiously, I was offered an insurance clause on my rental, and when I asked what it covered, it was things like scratching fenders, breaking lights, but not the tires, or the chipper blades. I told the guy I'd be shocked if he had a single chipper in his yard without scratches on the fenders. Which he acknowledged. So, we decided the $38 insurance policy wasn't for me. Turns out the right tail light was out from the yard.

Good luck with your decision, sorry I might not have helped much.

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Jere, question about hauling the chipper around with the x728, how much of a hill do you think you could safely handle with it? I was thinking of doing the same thing with my BX, but have a hill to go down and back up.
That chipper weighs twice as much as a X728; your BX is more like a X748, or maybe a 1023E, maybe? Still around 1750-2000 pounds or so. Traction will be the determining factor whether you can pull it up a hill or stop it when going down, regardless of the slope. I'll guarantee, though, if you start slipping while taking it down a slope, you won't stop it, you'll likely jackknife, and then be in a world of...Ö.. I'd never try to pull a trailer heavier than the tow vehicle in dirt or grass unless the trailer had it's own brakes, and then only on a very slight slope Grass is like ice once you break traction, and dirt isn't much better. BTDT, and was lucky.

That's pretty darn cool, though seeing the X728 pulling something like that. I'll bet it made the Tacoma jealous taking it off-road like that. And being a Tacoma owner myself, I can tell you that it doesn't take much to start dropping the mileage when towing with it. If it isn't the trailer weight, it's the aerodynamics. I towed a 5x8 V-nosed cargo trailer from NC to Miami FL with mine, got 14 mpg both ways, and the return trip was with an empty trailer.

That said, if you are going to have more wood to chip over the years, on all those properties, why not buy a smaller chipper that's still capable of handling arm-sized logs? It will pay for itself in a few years. I bought a DR Equipment chipper, a PTO driven model that my X748 handles just fine. They also make tow-behind versions with their own engine. Not sure what you might have paid to rent the beast you had, but the DR is pretty affordable, and it's really well made.
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Jere, your answer helps. Your basically telling me itís not a straight forward proposition unless your on mostly flat ground.

The ďgoogleĒ lists the x728 at 955 lbs, and my bx1860 at 1255 lbs. Thatís quite a bit percentage wise, but the 1860 is a smaller footprint. Adding the mmm, loader, and ballast box, and me pushes up to 2500 lbs. Donít think I have enough room under the ballast box for the chipper hitch going over terrain.

I donít think should try it, a downhill jackknife situation wonít end very well.


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That said, if you are going to have more wood to chip over the years, on all those properties, why not buy a smaller chipper that's still capable of handling arm-sized logs? It will pay for itself in a few years. I bought a DR Equipment chipper, a PTO driven model that my X748 handles just fine. They also make tow-behind versions with their own engine. Not sure what you might have paid to rent the beast you had, but the DR is pretty affordable, and it's really well made.
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I looked at a nice DR on CL and a couple Bandit and Bear Cat pull behinds. But, I decided I had a limited window of opportunity this time, and wanted something I felt confident would start, run, and chip for two straight days. I am still considering a nice pull behind. Second consideration - I don't have even a couple square feet of indoor storage right now. I just picked up a 3 rail motorcycle trailer for a song (actually for a little siding repair job), and it sits outside tonight in the rain. I hate doing that with equipment, though this trailer has probably been outside for most of it's 40 years of life.

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Nice work! I subscribed to your channel I am your first subscriber. I have a Morbark model 10 chipper it's a 1997 with a 4.236 Perkins in it. 97 was pre most internet stuff I think so I dont know what the weight of it is but it's the biggest chipper Morbark made back then that wasnt equipped with trailer brakes from the factory afaik. The model 13 had brakes but its 6000lbs+. I have a Tundra for my driving around truck and you really notice it behind you while on the brake pedal Haha. Usually its behind the F550 but the odd time the Tundra gets the nod for moving it around. I almost bought a 65xp bandit before I bought the morbark so I could more easily move it around with the half ton or tractor etc. Never used one but want to try one I've read they are pretty unbeatable in the 6inch class. Carlton 6inch is very good from personal experience as well.

I never used to like chipping but now that I have my own I kind of like it Haha.

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