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Kevlar belt for the 445's 60" deck AND High Lift Blades

Look what I found that Uncle John won't provide!
REPLACEMENT for JOHN DEERE M120381 DOUBLE "V" 60" DECK BELT made with KEVLAR
Item price $42.75
AND
Stens 330-357 3PK Hi-Lift Blade/John Deere M141785 Compact Tractor 60"Mower Deck
Item price $91.10
Quantity 2 (that's six blades!)

Kevlar belts last just about forever and High Lift Blades clean up the leaves and mow wonderfully!
I must admit that the "standard" blade for the 60" deck does a darn nice job throwing out the grass, but, I know there will be an improvement with the High Lift blades.

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Craftsman, MTD, Snapper, 1961 Ford 801 Powermaster, 1992 LB 4.5HP 580546, 2003 LB 10552 6.5HP Duraforce, IH Cub Cadet 105, 2001 Cub Cadet 2146 14HP Linamar 38" deck, love of my life (Sold 10 Dec 2011), 2007 Cub Cadet 2550 22HP Kohler Vtwin 50"deck (Sold 22 Aug 2018)
In use:
1994 JD LX178 sweet little mower, only 15HP, twin cyl, 38" deck, liquid cooled!
1998 JD 445 22HP Shaft driven wheels, shaft driven 60" deck, diff-lock, hydraulic lift, power steering, fuel & temp gauges, fuel injected, and liquid cooled! This machine has it all!
2005 Nortrak NT 254 25HP Diesel 5' FEL, here's a case of cost-cutting, I only need a tractor 3 or 4 times a year

Going to try to stay Liquid Cooled the rest of my life! Hey, it gets HOT here!

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That new belt was tough to get on....but I made it. I checked the angle on the blades and found them to be the same as the standard JD blade. Difference? The price! Of the six blades, I ended up balancing three of them. They weren't far off, but still off. Same heavy blade as the JD, though, so I'm happy.

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Craftsman, MTD, Snapper, 1961 Ford 801 Powermaster, 1992 LB 4.5HP 580546, 2003 LB 10552 6.5HP Duraforce, IH Cub Cadet 105, 2001 Cub Cadet 2146 14HP Linamar 38" deck, love of my life (Sold 10 Dec 2011), 2007 Cub Cadet 2550 22HP Kohler Vtwin 50"deck (Sold 22 Aug 2018)
In use:
1994 JD LX178 sweet little mower, only 15HP, twin cyl, 38" deck, liquid cooled!
1998 JD 445 22HP Shaft driven wheels, shaft driven 60" deck, diff-lock, hydraulic lift, power steering, fuel & temp gauges, fuel injected, and liquid cooled! This machine has it all!
2005 Nortrak NT 254 25HP Diesel 5' FEL, here's a case of cost-cutting, I only need a tractor 3 or 4 times a year

Going to try to stay Liquid Cooled the rest of my life! Hey, it gets HOT here!
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I just bought a used Z655 JD and was looking to see where the best place was to get parts and I found Amazon has some good prices. Also found the Kevlar belt there for about 1/2 the price of a JD's.
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I just bought a used Z655 JD and was looking to see where the best place was to get parts and I found Amazon has some good prices. Also found the Kevlar belt there for about 1/2 the price of a JD's.
JD has good parts, but not always the best but you can bet their price will be darned high. I go between Amazon, Walmart and simply googling. Any belts I buy must be Kevlar.

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Craftsman, MTD, Snapper, 1961 Ford 801 Powermaster, 1992 LB 4.5HP 580546, 2003 LB 10552 6.5HP Duraforce, IH Cub Cadet 105, 2001 Cub Cadet 2146 14HP Linamar 38" deck, love of my life (Sold 10 Dec 2011), 2007 Cub Cadet 2550 22HP Kohler Vtwin 50"deck (Sold 22 Aug 2018)
In use:
1994 JD LX178 sweet little mower, only 15HP, twin cyl, 38" deck, liquid cooled!
1998 JD 445 22HP Shaft driven wheels, shaft driven 60" deck, diff-lock, hydraulic lift, power steering, fuel & temp gauges, fuel injected, and liquid cooled! This machine has it all!
2005 Nortrak NT 254 25HP Diesel 5' FEL, here's a case of cost-cutting, I only need a tractor 3 or 4 times a year

Going to try to stay Liquid Cooled the rest of my life! Hey, it gets HOT here!
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Gene, Keep a close eye on your belt adjustment. Although the ad states it's a JD replacement, it's probably not. JD uses a 32º included angle on the belts and a standard V-belt is 40º. It'll work, but it will ride high on your pulleys until it eventually conforms to the different groove angle. As it conforms, it will run lower & lower in the groove and require frequent adjustment in the beginning.

Good find though and everyone wants to save $$$, Bob
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Gene, Keep a close eye on your belt adjustment. Although the ad states it's a JD replacement, it's probably not. JD uses a 32º included angle on the belts and a standard V-belt is 40º. It'll work, but it will ride high on your pulleys until it eventually conforms to the different groove angle. As it conforms, it will run lower & lower in the groove and require frequent adjustment in the beginning.

Good find though and everyone wants to save $$$, Bob
Bob, On the cardboard package it say: A-M120381 Kevlar John Deere 5/8" X 124" and it's a double V.
It's a little tighter than the OEM I took off and it's quieter. I'm believing it is the right one.

The "high lift" blades actually have the same angle as the JD standard blade. However, the actual cutting edge goes considerably further than the OEM.

My guess is that A&I products may make the belts for JD. The blades are Stens and work fine.

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Craftsman, MTD, Snapper, 1961 Ford 801 Powermaster, 1992 LB 4.5HP 580546, 2003 LB 10552 6.5HP Duraforce, IH Cub Cadet 105, 2001 Cub Cadet 2146 14HP Linamar 38" deck, love of my life (Sold 10 Dec 2011), 2007 Cub Cadet 2550 22HP Kohler Vtwin 50"deck (Sold 22 Aug 2018)
In use:
1994 JD LX178 sweet little mower, only 15HP, twin cyl, 38" deck, liquid cooled!
1998 JD 445 22HP Shaft driven wheels, shaft driven 60" deck, diff-lock, hydraulic lift, power steering, fuel & temp gauges, fuel injected, and liquid cooled! This machine has it all!
2005 Nortrak NT 254 25HP Diesel 5' FEL, here's a case of cost-cutting, I only need a tractor 3 or 4 times a year

Going to try to stay Liquid Cooled the rest of my life! Hey, it gets HOT here!
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Gene, On the JD parts page, the A-M120381 is listed as an actual "Alternate Part"...for $55.19! As I said, good find! Bob
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Re: Kevlar belt for the 445's 60" deck AND High Lift Blades

Why was it tough to put on? Did you loosen the bump stop and adjust that? Shouldn't be tough to install unless it is really too short.


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Kevlar belts last just about forever.
I've got a collection of snapped and 'slicked' (don't go no mo') ones that say otherwise.
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Awesome info. Thank you.

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Why was it tough to put on? Did you loosen the bump stop and adjust that? Shouldn't be tough to install unless it is really too short.
It was tight getting it between an idler pulley and two beltkeepers. At that point I was worn out wrestling with the 300 pound deck!

In the past:
Craftsman, MTD, Snapper, 1961 Ford 801 Powermaster, 1992 LB 4.5HP 580546, 2003 LB 10552 6.5HP Duraforce, IH Cub Cadet 105, 2001 Cub Cadet 2146 14HP Linamar 38" deck, love of my life (Sold 10 Dec 2011), 2007 Cub Cadet 2550 22HP Kohler Vtwin 50"deck (Sold 22 Aug 2018)
In use:
1994 JD LX178 sweet little mower, only 15HP, twin cyl, 38" deck, liquid cooled!
1998 JD 445 22HP Shaft driven wheels, shaft driven 60" deck, diff-lock, hydraulic lift, power steering, fuel & temp gauges, fuel injected, and liquid cooled! This machine has it all!
2005 Nortrak NT 254 25HP Diesel 5' FEL, here's a case of cost-cutting, I only need a tractor 3 or 4 times a year

Going to try to stay Liquid Cooled the rest of my life! Hey, it gets HOT here!
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I've got a collection of snapped and 'slicked' (don't go no mo') ones that say otherwise.
It's true that some machines are hard on belts. I've known guys who had cars (before serpentines) that would go through fan belts. I suppose their pulleys were out of alignment or had rough edges.

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Craftsman, MTD, Snapper, 1961 Ford 801 Powermaster, 1992 LB 4.5HP 580546, 2003 LB 10552 6.5HP Duraforce, IH Cub Cadet 105, 2001 Cub Cadet 2146 14HP Linamar 38" deck, love of my life (Sold 10 Dec 2011), 2007 Cub Cadet 2550 22HP Kohler Vtwin 50"deck (Sold 22 Aug 2018)
In use:
1994 JD LX178 sweet little mower, only 15HP, twin cyl, 38" deck, liquid cooled!
1998 JD 445 22HP Shaft driven wheels, shaft driven 60" deck, diff-lock, hydraulic lift, power steering, fuel & temp gauges, fuel injected, and liquid cooled! This machine has it all!
2005 Nortrak NT 254 25HP Diesel 5' FEL, here's a case of cost-cutting, I only need a tractor 3 or 4 times a year

Going to try to stay Liquid Cooled the rest of my life! Hey, it gets HOT here!
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It was tight getting it between an idler pulley and two beltkeepers. At that point I was worn out wrestling with the 300 pound deck!
Yes I forgot about those little posts. They are tough.


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OTC weather enclosure w/ heat, glass, wiper, lights
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Custom 52" quick tach front blade
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