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post #1 of 31 Old 03-25-2019, 09:54 PM Thread Starter
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Help my analysis-paralysis!

Hi All!

I'm looking to buy my first tractor and stumbled upon the vast information on this forum. I have 1 acre, with a large driveway that I would like to be able to plow. I don't think I need a snowblower attachment. I want to buy something quality, long lasting, and buy it once. I know that I don't want anything from a big box store and am always looking for value and thus am very open to something used. I have a few areas with some steep berm areas with a few trees to mow around. I think a 48 inch deck would be ideal due to the berm areas and several steep areas and risk of scalping. Don't want to spend much more than 4k but I would if the right deal came along.

Aside from what I can find new, I have stumbled across a few used possibilities that I am curious about:

1.) 2011 x500 48inch deck with 210 hours, front blade, and trailer for $3k

2.) 2011 x534 54inch deck with 430 hours, front blade, and trailer for $4k

3.) 2010 x700 62inch deck with 660 hours, front blade, and trailer for $4.7k (I would definitely need to try to sell the 62inch deck and pick up a 48in)

Any of these seem like a winner or should I keep looking? The x700 is probably ridiculously overkill for my needs right now but I keep thinking it is just a little bit more for something much nicer and don't know where to stop, haha.

Anyways, any help would be appreciated! Thanks in advance.
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Re: Help my analysis-paralysis!

Greenbean, If you've got mechanical abilities, don't overlook the older 300 series. I mention mechanical abilities only because these machines are approaching 40 years old. The 316, 317 & 318 are excellent tractors, as well as the 314...but that has single port hydraulics and you'd want dual hydraulics for power angle on a blade. Most of these can be found with deck and blade for around 2K.

If there's any wear in them, and you correct that, you can expect 10-20 years of service without putting a wrench on them...other than oils & filters.

A couple of other sites that have LOTS of info and very smart people: Weekend Freedom Machines (www.wfmachines.com), and Green Tractor Talk (www.greentractortalk.com).

Enjoy the hunt! Bob
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The x534 sounds like a winner to me. I have a GX345 and love the hydraulic lift and power steering which you will get on the x534. My lot is similar in size as yours with a long drive as well, however, I opted for a blower. I feel like the GX345 is overkill for my needs but bought it when I redid my lawn. I had an LT166 that did a great job cutting it but wouldn't pull my drag rake or lawn roller.

A lot of folks on this site will say you can never have too much tractor but I agree that the x700 would be ridiculous overkill. I also agree that the 48-inch deck is likely the way to go given your terrain but it's hard to find the perfect fit when you buy used.

BTW - I'm not an expert on prices but those all seem very fair and if you don't pick quickly, they'll be sold.
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Well if a 48 inch deck is mandatory then buy the X500 and save the money to put towards other attachments. Maybe a Johnny bucket Sr. to help with those jobs around the property.

Normally I would be one to say get the biggest tractor now that you can afford because you will eventually need it. However my 322 on 1.5 acres has been satisfactory for a long time, if I change now it's going to be for creature comforts!

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Hi All!

I'm looking to buy my first tractor and stumbled upon the vast information on this forum. I have 1 acre, with a large driveway that I would like to be able to plow. I don't think I need a snowblower attachment. I want to buy something quality, long lasting, and buy it once. I know that I don't want anything from a big box store and am always looking for value and thus am very open to something used. I have a few areas with some steep berm areas with a few trees to mow around. I think a 48 inch deck would be ideal due to the berm areas and several steep areas and risk of scalping. Don't want to spend much more than 4k but I would if the right deal came along.

Aside from what I can find new, I have stumbled across a few used possibilities that I am curious about:

1.) 2011 x500 48inch deck with 210 hours, front blade, and trailer for $3k

2.) 2011 x534 54inch deck with 430 hours, front blade, and trailer for $4k

3.) 2010 x700 62inch deck with 660 hours, front blade, and trailer for $4.7k (I would definitely need to try to sell the 62inch deck and pick up a 48in)

Any of these seem like a winner or should I keep looking? The x700 is probably ridiculously overkill for my needs right now but I keep thinking it is just a little bit more for something much nicer and don't know where to stop, haha.

Anyways, any help would be appreciated! Thanks in advance.
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The X700 series is Just fine for 1 acre

Is the X700 a Private sale or Thru a dealer?

If it's a dealer selling it getting rid of the 62inch for a 48inch will be a lot easier.

Now some thing to Keep In Mind the 48inch deck Made for the Current X700 signature series Made 2012 to 2018 will actually fit On the older X700 Model which Open You Up to Be able to add the Manual Mulch Control to the 48inch deck The 2019 48inch deck Might be a Problem to Mount On the Older X700 series.

I ran a X485(older Version of X720/X730) for 11 years with a 48inch deck. Just Love the Cut I should Have kept the 48inch deck when I Bought My used X748 with a 54inch deck But I was going to get the deck roller attachment(stripping Kit) Never have done that In the almost 5 years I have Owned the X748 with 54inch deck

660 Hrs Is Nothing for a X700 series Tractor
With the X700 series You get Both Hydraulic Lift and Hydraulic angle with the front Blade The Hydraulic angle Beats the Manual angle On the X500 series front Blades I have a 54inch Blade with Hydraulic angle On a X748 and a 48inch Blade with Manual angle on a GX335 which it Can Be a PIA to Get the 48inch Blade to angle to Max angle Left and Right (same angle Kit for GX300 & X500 series 48inch Blades)

The X700 series really Opens the Possibilities to You it is the Most versatile garden tractor your looking at. Some Options that You May not Have considered the X700 Model Open You Up to Be able to Use a Limited Cat 1 3point Hitch and a 540RPM rear PTO Nice for Running PTO Powered equipment such as a Back up Generator. It also Opens You Up to a Optional Loader or a Johnny Bucket Sr(which has Hydraulic Lift and Dump) the X500 series allows You to use a Johnny Bucket Jr which Utilizes electric actuators for Dump & Lift).

Some Have mentioned a Older 300 series such as a 318. Keep In Mind the last 318 was Made 27 years ago and Some High ware Parts are No Longer available from Deere such as the Front axle spindles Now PA318 is running a 322 as His Primary Machine That said He Loves to tinker with His Machines. I personally would not have a 300 series Made 1983 to 1992 as My Primary Machine I think You right to Look at a newer aged Machine unless You Love to tinker with Older Machines

The X534 is Kind of a Limiting Machine do to it's AWS. Which the AWS doesn't really effect the Versatility of a X700 series with AWS . The X534 does have hydraulic power steering and hydraulic lift But Your stuck with Manual angle for the Blade

The X500 series Utilizes a Manual spring assist Lift and Manual steering has a Optional electric Lift Kit for Front Mounted attachment. One You Have tried Hydraulic power steering and hydraulic lift you will never want to be with out them The especially handy in winter months.

I would Look at the X700 series first It really the Perfect Tractor for a 1 acre lot I use to use Mine on a 5.5acre Lot and now use My X748 On a 3.9 acre Lot But It Primary Job today is Not Mowing as a I have a 2018 Cub Cadet XT3 GSX for that. The X748 does Mostly 3 point work and Loader work Now.

At My Old House I used to used the X485/X748 to Maintains Neighbors Yards that were a 1/2 to 3/4 acre Lots and it Handled Mowing On the Lots as well as there snow removal. I had a residential sub division that Bordered My 5.5 acre Property On one side had a Lot of Neighbors who didn't enjoy Yard work.

That is why I say a X700 Model is Just Perfect for a 1 acre Lot

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Where are You Located? state/ Province and closest city

Reason I ask the Membership Might be able to Help You Locate a machine

The X700 series is Just fine for 1 acre

Is the X700 a Private sale or Thru a dealer?

If it's a dealer selling it getting rid of the 62inch for a 48inch will be a lot easier.

Now some thing to Keep In Mind the 48inch deck Made for the Current X700 signature series Made 2012 to 2018 will actually fit On the older X700 Model which Open You Up to Be able to add the Manual Mulch Control to the 48inch deck The 2019 48inch deck Might be a Problem to Mount On the Older X700 series.


That is why I say a X700 Model is Just Perfect for a 1 acre Lot
I am located in Southeast Michigan near Ann arbor.

The x700 would be a private sale so it will be difficult for me to sell the 62 inch deck I would think. Would you be able to direct me to where I could buy the proper 48 inch deck with mulch kit that you were talking about? I'd like to know what those cost.

Thank you everyone for your thoughtful responses so far. Lots to think about....
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I would pick the x700 solely for the liquid cooled engine. In 2016 I bought an x485 AWS, 62C deck, 500 hours, from a dealer for $4700. No plow or trailer. So I think you are getting a good price.

You could put a CL ad for SWAPPING the deck. I am sure a lot of guys would jump at it to go bigger.

I had a 50" deck (JD 285) and like the extra 12" of the 62" deck. I get done mowing an hour sooner. I did have a few spots I could not access, (bird houses on poles) that I moved. The x485 does use more fuel than the 285 did.

My 285 was bought new in 1989, but stolen in 2017. So I got 28 years of use out of it.
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I would seriously consider the X700. I run a previous version, an X485 and love it. Liquid cooled engine, starts in the winter every time, plenty of power to till and push heavy wet snow. Also, unless you physically can't fit a 62" deck through areas of your yard, you may actually really like the bigger deck. I know it seems like overkill, but I have found that I can cut real close to things with the 62" deck that I couldn't with a small deck as I would ding up the fenders otherwise. The larger deck actually gives you reach that you wouldn't have with a smaller deck. I also have plenty of undulations and ditches on my property and rarely have scalping issues. If the deck wheels are set correctly you should not scalp hardly at all, even with a 62" deck.

I'd say go see the tractors in person, drive them around bit, see how they feel, etc. Then get serious about a decision.

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I would not be so quick to discount the larger deck, just because you have a couple areas that might be at risk for scalping. You may just need to figure out how to approach those areas to avoid scalping them.

I have a couple of those areas too, but I just modify the route I take to mow those areas so that the scalping risk is minimized. On one spot, I just have to mow it from a certain angle. On another, I put the upper edge of my deck on the high spot and mow parallel to it. Then I do the same on the other side. It's slower, but it works.

The tradeoff is that it takes slightly longer to mow those areas, but I can cover more ground faster with the larger deck on the rest of my lawn.
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I am located in Southeast Michigan near Ann arbor.

The x700 would be a private sale so it will be difficult for me to sell the 62 inch deck I would think. Would you be able to direct me to where I could buy the proper 48 inch deck with mulch kit that you were talking about? I'd like to know what those cost.

Thank you everyone for your thoughtful responses so far. Lots to think about....
No should be to difficult to sell

What I am saying don't expect the 62inch deck to be a even trade for a 48inch deck Because of age They'll give You Blue Book and selling it outright On your own may Take awhile

But Trading it In On a 48inch deck You'll Probably only get $400 to $600 for the 62inch deck

48inch deck Is $1,300 Plus about another $383.06 for the Mulch Control attachment Kit and standard drive shaft and You Can get That at any JD dealer those Prices are at MSRP so they could be Less depending On JD dealer Some dealers sell at MSRP and are Not willing to Budge

Now If You Put Your Budget Up to the $5,000 Plus Range there is this dealer https://www.lawnpower.com/browse-equ...-models#anchor and they ship there Machines Via Mayflower Moving company. It was $1,000 shipping to North Central Massachusetts on the New Hampshire border so Michigan will be a lot cheaper But You May get a X700 series That has the deck You want or If You Have a good towing vehicle renting U-Haul trailer to get it Yourself There Pretty good there usually willing to swap stuff such as Mowing decks, rimes & tires etc. I have Bought two Machine from them Myself since 2014

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Have you bought it yet? I can't see it lasting at the price.

I think you could easily trade the deck for a used 48" deck, more people want to go BIGGER than smaller. You might even make a few bucks on the trade.
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I think you could easily trade the deck for a used 48" deck, more people want to go BIGGER than smaller. You might even make a few bucks on the trade.
I question this assumption. Markets vary but last year precisely 2 recent model year JD mower decks came available on Craigslist. One was a like new 48" off an x300/500 series and the other 54" in excellent, but not new condition. I picked up the 48", the 54" sat unsold for months. It was from the same seller that I bought the 48" from and the price was $450 so that wasn't the issue.

Can't imagine there are many 48" decks manufactured/sold for the X700 series so you may be hard pressed to find a taker on such a trade.

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Maybe he would have to settle for a 54" deck then. I would not let the 62" deck deter me from buying. Try it you may like it.
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OP here. Wanted to check back in. I went to a John Deere dealer and saw the new model x530 and x739 series in person. The x7 series was amazing but I could not get over the size of it. I would feel silly riding it around my property to be honest. As much as I love the idea of it I just can't stomach paying the extra 2 grand for the x700 considering my needs. It would make me want to upgrade to 3-4 acres which would just get even more expensive

After some negotiating I got the x500 down to $2800. I may still try to negotiate the x534 some more though to see if we can get it closer to the x500, but right now I don't think it will be worth the extra $1200. Thanks everyone for all your advice so far.
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OP here. Wanted to check back in. I went to a John Deere dealer and saw the new model x530 and x739 series in person. The x7 series was amazing but I could not get over the size of it. I would feel silly riding it around my property to be honest. As much as I love the idea of it I just can't stomach paying the extra 2 grand for the x700 considering my needs. It would make me want to upgrade to 3-4 acres which would just get even more expensive

After some negotiating I got the x500 down to $2800. I may still try to negotiate the x534 some more though to see if we can get it closer to the x500, but right now I don't think it will be worth the extra $1200. Thanks everyone for all your advice so far.
Well since You got the X500 series cheaper I would Look at least adding the Electric lift Kit for the Blade The foot Pedal Lift gets old real Fast when Plowing snow and the electric lift kit also gives You down Pressure On the front Blade(which even the Hydraulic lift On the X500 series doesn't even allow) & it allows You to Make Minute adjustments to the Blade height which again the way the Hydraulic lift is designed on the X500 series doesn't really allow Unless You Play with the depth stop on the Tractor

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