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post #1 of 56 Old 11-12-2018, 07:50 PM Thread Starter
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Fueling Cart - Avoiding Lifting and Falls

When you get older like me or my friends, you start to rethink things. If you dislike picking up a 5 gallon can of gas or diesel fuel to fill the tractor, ATV, UTV, generator, or whatever, especially if you are going to use a funnel, then you know the problem. The filler neck on the X738 is 31” above the ground. My friends cap on his larger diesel Cub Cadet is about 60” above the ground.

After using my water filtering black plastic funnel (about 10-12” tall) and running gas all over the tractor because I couldn’t see the gas level. And my 84 year old 5’ tall widow friend who insists on filling the tractors after they cool down, of course with a steel funnel, I decided to look for better alternatives. I found a Flo-n-Go siphon/pump that I am using for now from TSC for about $25.00. My 80 year old 5’ 8” friend with the Cub Cadet liked what I did. I set a 54” tall frame on a 30” furniture dolly with a shelf at the top. The pump is easy to prime and flows great, less so when the can is lower, but is easy to see fuel level avoiding spills. The issue is putting a full gas can on top of it. He made a 2x4 frame and heavy duty plastic shelves to hold the cans (gas and diesel). It keeps all fuel cans, StarTron and other fuel related items in one place and easily moves to where you need it. I liked it and remade mine too.

However, I ran across an electric fuel transfer pump on Amazon, TeraPump TREP03.
https://www.amazon.com/TeraPump-TREP.../dp/B01HOXQ5E0

My friend liked the idea so much he ordered it right away. It came today, so we thought we would check it out. It is good, but... it would only fit snuggly into one gas can, Chilton, but not the other two Chiltons. There were several other brands that were way too small, but they were all smaller cans. All the cans are older. It wasn’t off by much, but enough that it wouldn’t go into the can openings. We decided to reduce the size of the filter housing diameter with a belt sander. We used the Chilton can with the smallest opening (diesel can) to size the filter housing, but made it so it would just go into it, which meant it would go into the gas cans easily. Once that was done, of course we had to try it. The pump is rated at 4 gallons per minute. We pumped diesel fuel out of the diesel can into another. WOW, I was impressed. You better make sure you have the nozzle all the way into another can or tank or it will pump a lot where you don’t want it.

I sent an email to the manufacturer to see what cans they recommend. When we get their response, I’ll post it.

My friend was extremely pleased and could see where he would eliminate a lot of lifting and dangerous situations where he would be standing on a drawbar holding a 5 gallon can of diesel pouring into a tank that was at just below eye level for him. He has fallen in that position before and doesn’t want to experience it again since his shoulder and two knee replacements.

The hose on the pump nozzle is about 8.5 ft. The pump can run from 12VDC (8 ft cord to a cigarette lighter socket) or from 110VAC (small power converter with 8-10 ft cord). On a scale of 1-10, it would have been an 11 or 12 if it weren’t for fitting into the cans, but then again, newer cans may not have any issues, maybe less issues with metal jerrycans too (didn’t try them,but will).

Take a look if you’re older or if the wife has to fuel occasionally when you are not around. Enjoy!

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Cool! I don't need it (not yet, anyway) but that looks like a great solution!
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Re: Fueling Cart - Avoiding Lifting and Falls

I know it's done all the time, but I'm not wild about having power near flowing fuel.

I got a 55 gallon barrel that I can load on a trailer and take to a neighbor that gets diesel delivered. I get about half the barrel filled which is manageable for me to move with a hand truck. Then I use a hand crank barrel pump to fuel the tractor.

Gasoline for the other machines is still done the 2-1/2 or 5 gallon can way.
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I grew up using gravity feed tanks with fuel nozzles. Its a shame we can not legally pump fuel from the gas pump into a properly paint fuel drum for home use and storage.
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I have a 14-Gallon Flow-n-go gas tank for keeping my Deere happy. I made a wall shelf for it in my shed so it can sit high and gravity feed. It's a bit tough to get a full tank up on the shelf, but it's all good once it's up there. No more humping 5 gallon tanks for me!

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Re: Fueling Cart - Avoiding Lifting and Falls

Some good insight, but perhaps consider if you will still be able to do the things you suggest with replaced knees or shoulders, when you are over 80, have a stroke, or would you expect your widow to do the same things? It’s a sobering thought that we may not and some things are inevitable with increasing age. Just my perspective of taking precautions to avoid injury if possible to you or your spouse.

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I can thinks of many ways to get that tank overhead that would not require man handling it into place. After all isn't that why we bought tractors in the first place.
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Some good insight, but perhaps consider if you will still be able to do the things you suggest with replaced knees or shoulders, when you are over 80, have a stroke, or would you expect your widow to do the same things? It’s a sobering thought that we may not and some things are inevitable with increasing age. Just my perspective of taking precautions to avoid injury if possible to you or your spouse.
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I can thinks of many ways to get that tank overhead that would not require man handling it into place. After all isn't that why we bought tractors in the first place.
I like the way you think. Use the tractor if possible or maybe even a pulley and winch setup to lift stuff.

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I got a 55 gallon barrel that I can load on a trailer and take to a neighbor that gets diesel delivered. I get about half the barrel filled which is manageable for me to move with a hand truck. Then I use a hand crank barrel pump to fuel the tractor.

I also use a 55 gallon barrel it will last the summer mowing . I just call the local gas man and he stops and fills it . The price is always better for tax free off road fuel anyway.
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I like the way you think. Use the tractor if possible or maybe even a pulley and winch setup to lift stuff.

If I were using enough fuel to make a tank like that worthwhile, but not enough to justify a fuel company placing a larger tank (500G?), I would rig up a stand and chainfall system. Lifting 100 gallons of diesel (about 700 lbs) wouldn't really be an issue that way.
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Another option, which I use, is a jiggle siphon (Super Easy Siphon Brand). You still have to get the can on the tractor hood (or lift it with another rig), but don't have to hold it while filling. No wires, power, etc.
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Best thing I ever did was purchase a 30 gallon transfer tank with an electric pump. I burn about that much fuel a month, saved me from constantly filling 5 gallon cans and filling takes a minute or less most times. I load the tank onto a trailer with a ramp to go fill it, that way I can easily roll it off when its full.

I would love to have delivery service but I doubt they would be interested for 100 gallons or so at a time.
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You might check, the bulk dealers here will do 100 gallons.
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Re: Fueling Cart - Avoiding Lifting and Falls

Yeah it gets old hoisting those five gallon cans. I use a 30 gal plastic barrel with a diaphragm type pump. I put 25 gals in and can use the loader to unload it. Before I got a loader I slid it down a plank out of my pickup into the shed.
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