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post #1 of 11 Old 06-11-2017, 10:07 AM Thread Starter
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There seems to be a lot of new x7xx owners in the past month or so, myself included so I thought I would share this. I took my hydraulic temperatures yesterday after mowing in 85 degree weather for about an hour and my infrared gun said 148 at the transaxle and 135 on the front axle. Thinking this was higher than I experienced with my last Tractor with a k66 transaxle I checked the fluid. After adding just over a quart I had it into the hash mark on the dipstick. I don't know if this will affect the temps or not but I like to keep everything at its proper level. I also changed the engine oil at 4 hours as more of a flush than a change. Had some standard Honda branded 10-30 oil and a Deere filter so I changed it out. Lots of specks and flakes came out as any new engine does. Moving to the Deere 0w-40 on the next change. Fuel consumption seemed to get extraordinarily better in the last couple hours. Anyways check your hydraulic fluid. Here is a pic of the stuff that goes in a x738.
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I plan changing my oil next week as it will have close to 8 hrs on the clock already. Going to switch to Amsoil Signature Series 5W-30 and an EA Amsoil filter. I will also change to Amsoil hydraulic oil at the 50 hr mark in the X738. It meets and exceeds John Deere's oil recommendations per the manual of: John Deere J20C, J20D (winter grade). Not that I don't trust John Deere fluids, but Amsoil is better in my opinion. 5 Gallon bucket is $155.50 dealer cost.

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Regarding engine oil - I use Mobile 1 synthetic in all my motors -- from my Chevy 3500 1 ton Duramax diesel to my 30cc 4 cycle weed eater. I have been using Mobile 1 for 40 years and in all that time have never had an engine problem. Good stuff . . .

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Yeah I'm not worried about type of engine oil. I worry more about mine not being the only one with a quart or more low on hydraulic fluid.

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Good advice to check it. Make sure you check the level cold, though - not hot; consult your owners manual for the process.

A couple of months ago there was a lot of discussion about things that didn't seem to be checked by the dealer before delivery and hydro fluid was on the list. My X394 came with the level above the "Add" line but below the "Full" line. I've been watching it to see if it drops a little bit with usage (posters said that it would), and it really hasn't moved. Coming up on 8 hours, I plan to change the oil and top off the hydro fluid at the same time.

The X300's with an accessible reservoir for the hydro fluid use the same thing - Low Viscosity Hy-Gard.

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Regarding engine oil - I use Mobile 1 synthetic in all my motors -- from my Chevy 3500 1 ton Duramax diesel to my 30cc 4 cycle weed eater. I have been using Mobile 1 for 40 years and in all that time have never had an engine problem. Good stuff . . .
Most of my life I used the cheapest stuff that met specs. I too have never had an engine problem.

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I have trust issues when it comes to other people's work. I do all of my own repairs because of this. I'm not a new tractor buyer but if I was I'd definitely check behind the dealer once I got it home. Often the dealers use their least experienced techs or other low paid employees to do set ups. It's not really hard to do but you have to want to do it right. I won't condemn all young people but there are many that do just enough to get by and those are the ones doing most of these types of jobs.
As for oil I use Mobil 1 in the car, Rotella 15w-40 in the truck, 332, and 430, and I use Supertech in the Grandson's 185. The 185 gets changed on time intervals and not usage because it doesn't work often.


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My statement on dealers has always been that the work is only good as the latest flunky they've hired to do the work who they haven't gotten rid of yet.
All businesses have issues from time to time. All shops make mistakes. I just get really irritated by a lot of dealers attitudes that they know more than everybody else and they do no wrong and people who go along with this sentiment.
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There seems to be a lot of new x7xx owners in the past month or so, myself included so I thought I would share this. I took my hydraulic temperatures yesterday after mowing in 85 degree weather for about an hour and my infrared gun said 148 at the transaxle and 135 on the front axle. Thinking this was higher than I experienced with my last Tractor with a k66 transaxle I checked the fluid.
If you had a liquid cooled engine with an oil cooler in the rad, the temperature would have been closer to 180. Don't worry about it until it hits 190 F. Hydro testing and qualifications are done with 180 fluid and most hydros are rated for 190-195.

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I have trust issues when it comes to other people's work. I do all of my own repairs because of this. I'm not a new tractor buyer but if I was I'd definitely check behind the dealer once I got it home. Often the dealers use their least experienced techs or other low paid employees to do set ups. It's not really hard to do but you have to want to do it right. I won't condemn all young people but there are many that do just enough to get by and those are the ones doing most of these types of jobs.
As for oil I use Mobil 1 in the car, Rotella 15w-40 in the truck, 332, and 430, and I use Supertech in the Grandson's 185. The 185 gets changed on time intervals and not usage because it doesn't work often.


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My statement on dealers has always been that the work is only good as the latest flunky they've hired to do the work who they haven't gotten rid of yet.
All businesses have issues from time to time. All shops make mistakes. I just get really irritated by a lot of dealers attitudes that they know more than everybody else and they do no wrong and people who go along with this sentiment.
I can confirm the least experienced techs doing the setups of new equipment theory. I worked in cycle shops and car dealers, we never used our best techs to do setups unless their was a problem. It wasn't even a training assignment. These were minimum wage guys who might be sweeping the parking lot when there weren't cars to setup. Even the oil and lube rack guys were more experienced.
Needless to say I do all my own repairs unless it's a warranty issue.
PS: Walmart's SuperTech oils are made by Mobil and Shell depending on where you are in the country.

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I bought a new X-758 last summer so it is one year old (last month) . The X-758 is a 4x4 and it is the norm that trans oil will need to be added after all the air is out (3/4 Hours run time) I added a quart . I now have 106 hours on the tractor and really like it a bunch . Do I need the four wheel drive I did not think so until I got it this thing will pull and push stuff you can not believe . Bottom line great little tractor .
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