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post #1 of 85 Old 01-23-2017, 10:22 PM Thread Starter
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Have you replaced your x-Series instrument cluster?

If you have and would like to know how to adjust your hour meter to display the correct value, please take a look at my solution. (Note: it seems that many x-Series owners have either purchased a tractor with a failing or dead instrument cluster, or experienced it during ownership.)


A few weeks ago I posted a question asking for help locating a specific wiring harness connector (https://www.mytractorforum.com/12-joh...g-harness.html). A few MTF members helped identify the type of plug for me - thank you again!

Now the reason behind the request: when I purchased my '03 x595 in the Spring of 2012, the hour meter LCD display was failing. At the time of sale, the hour meter showed 311 hours, but the display was dim and portions of the digits were missing. I had the JD dealer produce a document attesting to the hours on the machine. At the time, JD wanted a pretty penny for a new instrument cluster (about half of what they're going for now). I resisted for a while but finally purchased a new one. I wrapped up the old cluster and then applied a decal under the hood stating "+316.7 hours".

Over the years I've performed my maintenance and simply added the old hours to the hours on the new cluster when recording maintenance. But it always bugged me, as I thoroughly enjoy this tractor and have no intention of selling it at any point in the next few decades. So I was determined to find a way to adjust the hours to display the correct, current amount.

I tried finding the answer in the shop manual schematics but kept coming up empty. It dawned on me that the display is passive, and does not factor in to the starting & running of the tractor - it merely reports information. Armed with that insight, I unplugged the instrument cluster harness, started the tractor and then metered each pin. I thought that whatever +/- values I found would be the same values received by the instrument cluster during normal engine-on operation.

Probing the harness revealed one pin with power and 8 ground pins. So I created a small harness using the correct 20-pin connector, female pins, some 18g wire and a 12v power supply. Once complete, I attached my adaptor to the dash, crossed my fingers, and plugged the power supply in. The glow plug light came on for a moment and the hour meter started blinking.

I've added approximate 158 hours to the tractor since installing the new instrument cluster, so now it was time to pile on 316.7 more to get the tractor to the correct reading. I've done just that over the last two weeks - only plugging in the tractor's harness in order to clear the maintenance reminder that illuminates every 100 hours.

The hour meter adjustment is now done, showing the correct hours that are in the machine. Some may find this rather silly, or frown upon the action of adjusting equipment hours. I see it differently - it's my tractor that I truly enjoy and have maintained & bettered in many ways. I'd like for the display to accurately reflect the hours on the machine. I view this as the polar opposite of odometer fraud/tampering.


My initial attempts at waking up the old display:



Wiring harness connector that plugs into the instrument cluster:





The harness adaptor that I created:





Adaptor plugged in and hour meter running:





I disconnected my adaptor once the hour meter showed the correct value:






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Re: Have you replaced your x-Series instrument cluster?

Fantastic! Awesome idea!
Thanks for sharing.



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Re: Have you replaced your x-Series instrument cluster?

I have seen many so called low hour x4,x5 units and it's not hard to figure out the dash problem plays into this.The dealer should only sell the dash and take in the old as a core so they can adjust the hours on the new dash.I would rather buy yours with true hours then a 200 hour CL tractor.

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Fantastic! Awesome idea!
Thanks for sharing.
Thank you.

I was hesitant to post this idea, but then realized that the only people who would fail to see the benefit are shady tractor flippers.

My tractor could easily pass for the 158 hours that my new instrument cluster racked up since 2012. But I'm an honest guy and I also know that the instrument clusters are date stamped...



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Re: Have you replaced your x-Series instrument cluster?

I'm with you man. All the way of what you said.



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The dealer should only sell the dash and take in the old as a core so they can adjust the hours on the new dash.I would rather buy yours with true hours then a 200 hour CL tractor.
I think you meant to say that only dealers should be allowed to sell new clusters (in order to ensure the tractors display the correct hours). Agree, but that would be too much work for a parts department....

I agree though, I've seen many an ad for low-hour but beat-up looking x-Series tractors. Case in point - my neighbor purchased a 300-hour 2005 x595 a few months ago. We were both skeptical at the hours since the tractor had an abundance of cosmetic issues. One of the first things we did was to replace the worn steering column bushings. This meant taking the entire dash apart.

Sure enough - the rear of the instrument cluster was hot-stamped with "08".



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Re: Have you replaced your x-Series instrument cluster?

I guess I haven't put a 100 hours on my X495 since I got it............When and if the maintenance reminder light illuminates after 100 hours. How do I shut it off?

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I guess I haven't put a 100 hours on my X495 since I got it............When and if the maintenance reminder light illuminates after 100 hours. How do I shut it off?

My '03 has a yellow push button near the steering column (accessible once the left screen is removed). My neighbor's '05 does not have the push button, so I presume JD changed this at some point after '03.



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Re: Have you replaced your x-Series instrument cluster?

Does the yellow light come on every 100 hours? I bought my 485 with just under 500 hours if I remember correctly and the yellow button was used once, but it has not come on again and I'm north of 800 hours now.
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Does the yellow light come on every 100 hours? I bought my 485 with just under 500 hours if I remember correctly and the yellow button was used once, but it has not come on again and I'm north of 800 hours now.
I believe I had to clear it three times while adding the 316 hours.



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Maybe if you make it past 500 hours they don't remind you to do any routine service anymore
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Re: Have you replaced your x-Series instrument cluster?

I'm envious of your mechanical and technical skills. That is at the outer edge of my ability.

I purchased my 2004 X485 last June. At that time the hour meter read 471 hrs but was working intermittently. Shortly thereafter it quit altogether. The former owner said it had been acting up for around a year and a half. Based on his maintenance records and calculating his average yearly use, my guesstimate was between 650 and 700 hours on the machine. The local Deere dealer where he bought it new (same one I use) had done a lot of routine maintenance on it said my guess was probably in the ballpark.


Anyways, my way of keeping track of hours going forward was to install a Hobbs analog hour meter ($20) under the left side radiator screen. I tapped into the wire that supplies the light switch with power. Pretty basic but performs it designed task well. I have to remove the screen to clean the radiator area after every other mowing, so it's easy to monitor.

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I believe I had to clear it three times while adding the 316 hours.



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Anyone else not have the maintenance light go on every 100 hours as they climb past 500 or 600 hours on an older X485 or older X700 series?

Andreas your investigation and solution is brilliant and in no way is it unethical, I would feel the same satisfaction as you knowing the true hours of my tractor on its current, working gauge!

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I'm envious of your mechanical and technical skills. That is at the outer edge of my ability.

I purchased my 2004 X485 last June. At that time the hour meter read 471 hrs but was working intermittently. Shortly thereafter it quit altogether. The former owner said it had been acting up for around a year and a half. Based on his maintenance records and calculating his average yearly use, my guesstimate was between 650 and 700 hours on the machine. The local Deere dealer where he bought it new (same one I use) had done a lot of routine maintenance on it said my guess was probably in the ballpark.


Anyways, my way of keeping track of hours going forward was to install a Hobbs analog hour meter ($20) under the left side radiator screen. I tapped into the wire that supplies the light switch with power. Pretty basic but performs it designed task well. I have to remove the screen to clean the radiator area after every other mowing, so it's easy to monitor.
Good solution. Although it's easy to understand why, it's unfortunate that JD opted to make the hour meter integral to the instrument cluster. A new one currently costs $760!


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Andreas your investigation and solution is brilliant and in no way is it unethical, I would feel the same satisfaction as you knowing the true hours of my tractor on its current, working gauge!
Thank you for the kind words.



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My '03 has a yellow push button near the steering column (accessible once the left screen is removed). My neighbor's '05 does not have the push button, so I presume JD changed this at some point after '03.



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