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The Little Mule 91 F150

Tonight working on the old girl I decided I'd do a bit of an MTF post on the Little Mule and why she's special to me.

As many may or may not know old blue was 16th Christmas gift from grandpa turcheck A 91 f150 XLT Lariat 4X4 302 5 speed short bed. Second from the top of the line in 91. And a great teenagers truck. Which this vid is only year and half old now but this truck does take me back few years in life and feel abit younger
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ID:	1360146 It wasn't long me and grandpa had her in the shop doing some major surgery on the drivers side frame rail. The truck ran a boat marina down in Florida all by herself. Fifth wheel hitch in a half ton rusty frame rail from in and out the salt water. Was actually half rotted threw on the drives side. We cut a rail from another truck and scabbed her back together

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As many say once i had them both running and driveing well it was the start of an era With 2 legends.

The pair ran and worked together as the highway trucks till july of 2013. When the bronco was retired from her road dutys when her cancer went from serious to terminal and gave old blue a cool set of rims. But notice i never did get rid of the bronco. Maybe another thread one day
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Me and The Little Mule always had a goal. Run as many miles as we can. With a rig with 500,000 miles on it. Things happen stuff wears out.
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ID:	1360026 Theres a long list of stuff I've done to her over the years, clutches, universal joints, steering column( yes you can wear that out), water pumps, steering pump ect.

Now fast forward to 2014 and are goal was hit 507,000 miles that year. I was on track to hit it till one day I came home from work pulled in the end of the drive. Let her sit an idle as I walk to the mail box and hear on big metal on metal clang. My heart sunk as I turned to go what did you roll away and hit now little mule? Parking brake never worked well different story.

Anyhow this was the sound. I had just drove 20 miles round trip home from work and the snap ring failed as it was idleing in the drive go figure

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Old girl always was good to me and never let me down when I needed her the most. I remember nobody was home that day so a rescue party would have been a few hours. She held together and threw the fan threw the rad and only busted on core. I picked the fan up and quickly drove her to her parking spot.

Ordered the water pump and rad nothing out of the norm for me and Big White was handleing things then
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When I put the water pump on I must have broke the seal to the timeing cover and well she looked like old faithful when I started it. I was late fall and I drove her 2 miles to the gas station to fill her up and let her sit for winter. Took 2 gallon of antifreeze to go 2 miles.

I have done the timeing chain cover gasket in the past maybe 2 years ago. But that leads me to what I was up to today. Finally fixing it and with starting this thread in hopes to keep updateing it

Anyhow a few pics of tear down complete

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ID:	1360106 Just a few parts there. And I have everything cleaned up and ready to reassemble for tomorrow if I feel like working in the heat. Will be nice to have a brick nose back on the road again

Sorry for the long post and I hope to keep Old Blue going as my buddy's from high school called her the high mileage legend loud and proud Never did mess with the exhaust grandpa bought her that way

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Re: The Little Mule 91 F150

nice work!! You know.... Id be hard pressed not to have grabbed the 351 out of that bronco...

Rust is the biggy these days. I have a 95 bronco sitting because of it. Not sure how much work you have done on small block fords, but a few tips... On those long bolts that go through the waterbump and timing cover, put a light coating of antiseze on the shank of the bolt. The steel bolt tends to corrode into the alloy timing cover. Also not a bad time to check the condition of the timing chain wile you are there.

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Re: The Little Mule 91 F150

A good truck is like a good friend.

It hauls a**.

It never leaves you stranded, never lets you down.

You can sleep in in when the Old Lady is... that.

It gives you what you need, and you give it what it needs.


Nice mileage, keep 'er going.

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nice work!! You know.... Id be hard pressed not to have grabbed the 351 out of that bronco...

Rust is the biggy these days. I have a 95 bronco sitting because of it. Not sure how much work you have done on small block fords, but a few tips... On those long bolts that go through the waterbump and timing cover, put a light coating of antiseze on the shank of the bolt. The steel bolt tends to corrode into the alloy timing cover. Also not a bad time to check the condition of the timing chain wile you are there.


And like I said I never got rid of the bronco. She's a yard truck / mud truck now All it really needed is a body. But it did leak every fluid except brake fluid and power steering

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I've done tons to these small block fords. Mainly timeing chain cover gaskets. They always leak Take it apart redo it and your good for a year or your next water pump change or what ever comes first

I re torque the bolts every so often and still they leak. I was thinking about a timeing chain this time checking my service manual for allowable slop is 1/2 inch deflection. Which I am with in that so I'll let it alone for now.

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Re: The Little Mule 91 F150

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A good truck is like a good friend.

It hauls a**.

It never leaves you stranded, never lets you down.

You can sleep in in when the Old Lady is... that.

It gives you what you need, and you give it what it needs.


Nice mileage, keep 'er going.
And my thought exactly. Only time she ever let me down was when the clutch plate blew apart. Found out I had to step up to a raceing clutch pack to get it to hold together for a 6 grand shift Partly my fault But that clutch has been in there since 08 now.

But I was only a mile from the house and my buddies came and helped me push off to the side of road. Went home got the car dolly and drug it to are shop an hour away that was friday night. And drove it back to school monday morning

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Re: The Little Mule 91 F150

Progress being made. Only worked on it for an hour after 6 when it cooled down abit here

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Re: The Little Mule 91 F150

Well she's all back together and no leaks

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So thats the good news. The bad news she really needs driven some to get everything moveing again. Throw out bearing was stiff and letting out weird and the old gas she was running but idling funky for about 10 minutes while I let the thermostat open once. Took her up the road about 4 miles and opened her up abit

Will post more as they come along. Need to do an oil change and such badly. Been 3 years since the last one with maybe 1,200 miles

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Nice truck! What you've done with this one is something I've always wanted to do with a vehicle, pull as many miles as I possibly can out of it before its too far gone to fix. Great to see that you're getting it back on the road. Goes to show how long something can last if you take care of it. Those old Fords will last forever if you treat them nice.

It's funny you should mention the emergency brake not working well, mine doesn't lock down that strongly either...
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Nice truck! What you've done with this one is something I've always wanted to do with a vehicle, pull as many miles as I possibly can out of it before its too far gone to fix. Great to see that you're getting it back on the road. Goes to show how long something can last if you take care of it. Those old Fords will last forever if you treat them nice.

It's funny you should mention the emergency brake not working well, mine doesn't lock down that strongly either...
Thanks steam machine. It was a vow to my grandpa and something that is priceless to me.

I have turned down a 5 grand offer on it before and likely will again.

There was conversation between me and grandpa at Thanksgiving dinner of 07 about what I would like for a first car. I said I'd like a standard truck, preferable ford and V8 but said colors exact motors don't matter. And he said I wish someone would have done that for me when I turned 16

Wasn't but a few weeks later my grandpa had found this truck in Florida and and invited us down for Christmas. Mom and Dad knew about the truck but I did not going down. And long story short was a surprise back haul.

Guess you can say I have about the best grandpa, and im still very lucky that he is still around to see it

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Re: The Little Mule 91 F150

Took old Blue out for a run tonight. Airing up the tires here and went for gas. And carried on after

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Gonna have to check into I think my injectors are sticking sometimes. Or wonder if the TPS is out. Doesn't always drop to idle right away. It drops to 2500 rpms then slowly back to 1000 rpm's. I did check the throtle plates are not sticking and close right away. Guess I should hook the check engine light back up and see if its on lol. Bulb has been burnt out for seven years

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Re: The Little Mule 91 F150

The IAC's tend to carbon up and stick on those. That might be it. Ive had good luck cleaning injectors with Berymans (sp.) . The ford injectors are normally very reliable, but at that miles...

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Re: The Little Mule 91 F150

What do you think boys after a quick car wash she does clean up well Well 20 feet or 20MPH looks alright

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6? gravely's I think and counting
current tractors and rigs
1944 WWII L
48 L grw's
2 49 L's ,1 Wisconsin powered L
52 US navy L, 2 53 Ls
2 56 LI, 57 LI, 58 LI, 59 L & LS, 62 LI, 2 63 L8's & 2 LI's, 64 L8 & L, 65 LI, 66 L8, 66 C10, 2 67 C10As, 68 430, 69 C8, 70 C & CI & 2 C8's, 70com8, 71 430 nb, 432 & 450, 70, 73, 74 & 76 408, 74 812 75 CI & 524, 77 526 & 817, 78 818T& 5200, 82, 83 8163-B, 88 16G
1950's Bready
74 cub 129& case 220
48 Willy's CJ 2A
1991 ford F150 and Bronco
2007 F250 Big White
2010 Sc2450 yanmar
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Well after makeing a 50 mile round trip run to the company party saturday night and back. She's cleared for road duty, but im gonna be keeping a close eye on a few things.

A few note worthy things is along with the rough idle and slow to drop to idle sometimes. Gas mileage is way down burnt 6 gallon only going 50 miles or so. So im still thinking its the injectors sticking or the choke relay is turning on and off or something. But she always got 13- 11mpg before. As of right now 8.3mpg is no good. Something is up. I will get some injector cleaner and try it and I will turn to the trouble codes next threw the computer. Since its OBD1 its not as simple as plugging it in to a scan tool. But other than that runs good and she still has the power

Exhaust needs some love

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1944 WWII L
48 L grw's
2 49 L's ,1 Wisconsin powered L
52 US navy L, 2 53 Ls
2 56 LI, 57 LI, 58 LI, 59 L & LS, 62 LI, 2 63 L8's & 2 LI's, 64 L8 & L, 65 LI, 66 L8, 66 C10, 2 67 C10As, 68 430, 69 C8, 70 C & CI & 2 C8's, 70com8, 71 430 nb, 432 & 450, 70, 73, 74 & 76 408, 74 812 75 CI & 524, 77 526 & 817, 78 818T& 5200, 82, 83 8163-B, 88 16G
1950's Bready
74 cub 129& case 220
48 Willy's CJ 2A
1991 ford F150 and Bronco
2007 F250 Big White
2010 Sc2450 yanmar
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It's looking better every day!
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It's looking better every day!
It was a great feeling to get her out and hit interstate for abit set the cruise and let old blue do her thing. It ran great over with not a care in the world. Comeing back she was not idleing down again. I truthfully think its her way of being grumpy about sitting.

She always loved to be run every day. Shes back to first turn start now

So I have a feeling more driveing she'll straighten out. I try and take her for a drive every night. whether I go 5 miles or 50 miles don't matter

Im sitting at 506,932 I think right now. So it won't be long and finish off are last goal. Then after that who knows. Maybe tomorrow I'll make a run to get an oil filter after work and get that done. Im not driveing it to work at the moment. I have all my tools in big white yet so she's a weekend, or sunny day rig now be nice if the AC worked ..........

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1950's Bready
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48 Willy's CJ 2A
1991 ford F150 and Bronco
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