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Well, we will see how she holds up, Sunday will be a day of chipping if the weather holds.

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This is a very useful site for videos and how-to's

Welding Tips and Tricks - TIG, MIG, Stick and a pantload of other info
X2 - I think Jody's (weldingtipsandtricks.com) videos are the best on the net. He does a great job explaining not only how but why and discusses multiple techniques. He is one of the few to cut and etch his welds to show the effectiveness of different techniques.
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Yep, I've watched a few now. I did a couple of welds on some thick stock and was able to get some very short runs that didn't look too bad.

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Well, we will see how she holds up, Sunday will be a day of chipping if the weather holds.
Yeah it's time to trim the trees on the side of the driveway here and cut back some trees so I don't decapitate myself mowing. So I have to drag out the old Craftsman I got for $75 off a buddy. Then get the kid moving on trimming them off.

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My $.02 on your welds - I am not a welder by trade so take with a grain of salt.

- Do you have your polarity set up for Flux core, not MIG - it should be reverse polarity for flux core?

- I have a relatively new welder and found the manufacturers recommended settings to be off by as much as 30% for the wire that I am using. If you are still getting popping and burn back of the wire, (which it looks like you are) I would turn up the wire feed speed and/or turn down the voltage.
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First thanks for the input. I have it set for flux core, and you may be correct on wire speed. Voltage is nearly bottomed out because as soon as I add any it starts to burn through the thin steel. I'll try to find some practice steel same thickness and see if I can get a good bead with speed turned up.

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First thanks for the input. I have it set for flux core, and you may be correct on wire speed. Voltage is nearly bottomed out because as soon as I add any it starts to burn through the thin steel. I'll try to find some practice steel same thickness and see if I can get a good bead with speed turned up.
Sometimes the wire speed being too fast creates grapevines. It will pop and carry on because it's pushing to fast for the melt.

Please post a pic of the face/control panel of your welder.

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My $.02 on your welds - I am not a welder by trade so take with a grain of salt.

- Do you have your polarity set up for Flux core, not MIG - it should be reverse polarity for flux core?

- I have a relatively new welder and found the manufacturers recommended settings to be off by as much as 30% for the wire that I am using. If you are still getting popping and burn back of the wire, (which it looks like you are) I would turn up the wire feed speed and/or turn down the voltage.
Are you turning down voltage?...or amps?..I only have a stick machine which operates on either 110 or 220 volts..but I can change amps...but when I go too low...to avoid burning holes in thin steel..... it seems that the arc won't actually arc and the electrode sticks to the work
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Are you turning down voltage?...or amps?..I only have a stick machine which operates on either 110 or 220 volts..but I can change amps...but when I go too low...to avoid burning holes in thin steel..... it seems that the arc won't actually arc and the electrode sticks to the work
MIG/Fluxcore settings are in volts. The two main settings are volts and wire-speed. Amps are kind of behind the scenes in MIG.

As previously stated, I'm not a welder by trade so I'll stop before I embarrass myself too much.
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How much stick-out also makes a difference with heat buildup (ie, how far the tip of the gun is away from where you are welding). Closer/less stickout == hotter IIRC.
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MIG/Fluxcore settings are in volts. The two main settings are volts and wire-speed. Amps are kind of behind the scenes in MIG.

As previously stated, I'm not a welder by trade so I'll stop before I embarrass myself too much.
well let me help u.. I was a certified welder at my former work place.. it takes 21 volts to make an arc in a reg mig welder.. we had dials on our machines.. I have yet to see a pic of the OP machine..


at my former work place we used 95-5 gas.. flux-core is funny to weld with.. to get a good weld we had to make the welder tip go over the weld.. also the angle of the wire to the weld was also a factor..

weldin down hill was a art.. u had to go the right speed to keep ur puddle from going around ur wire..

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MIG/Fluxcore settings are in volts. The two main settings are volts and wire-speed. Amps are kind of behind the scenes in MIG.

As previously stated, I'm not a welder by trade so I'll stop before I embarrass myself too much.


funny thing is you are correct.

I want to see his control board on his welder and then i can give him more advixe.

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How much stick-out also makes a difference with heat buildup (ie, how far the tip of the gun is away from where you are welding). Closer/less stickout == hotter IIRC.
I thought more stickout (further away) made it hotter? My apologies if I had that wrong. Too-far away and you'll have other problems, though.
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It'll hurt like hell, but some "super glue" on a cut works great. ( in the winter when my fingers crack and split, I glue them up too)
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Bought some stuff called "2nd skin" and it burnt like heck when applied, did ok for a day and then wore off. Not an issue now, it has closed enough that I can use it.

So, 2nd job today with the welder and even though not a huge issue, makes me glad I bought it. Had a rounded bolt on the middle spindle of the mower deck and couldn't get it off. Ground down a bolt the same size and welded it on the other bolt head and the bolt came right out of the deck. Put the new blade on and new bolt and it was off to the races. Maybe a pretty expensive "bolt extractor" but it worked where a couple of other removers I bought wouldn't!

I did notice that while welding this bolt on since it was thick and the other bolt head thick I cranked the welder and wire feeder up pretty good (7 and 6 respectively) and got the "frying bacon" sound that I hear on all the welding videos. It did produce a strong weld too so I'd say that at least now I know that sound when the MiG is doing a good bead.

So here is the faceplace (image from the web) and for the 16 guage both knobs were turned almost all the way down.
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