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Bar and Chain Oil Question????

Nope, not going to ask who makes it. But if you use oil from a jug, and the jug is marked as "Bar And Chain Oil", is there any difference? All I want is some sticky oil that stays on the bar when the saw is revved up. And cleans the guides. I know you can spend $20 or so for a name-brand like Stihl or Husky, or buy a bottle of private label jazz that will do the job and save the money for a 6-pack of good beer. Thank you.

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Re: Bar and Chain Oil Question????

Question asked and answered. If it is tacky, it is good to go. Some like Winter weight when it get real cold. If the saw has been running, it it will pour it warms up fast in a metal chassis saw.

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Re: Bar and Chain Oil Question????

I use Stihl because it is a lot cheaper than bars and chains, it is also locally available. Basically if it is sticky and provides lube to the underside of the bar it's better than nothing.
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Re: Bar and Chain Oil Question????

+1 on Stihl; it's really tacky and won't sling off as easily as others plus imho I think it extends both chain & bar life. Take this with a grain of salt but I was a Stihl dealer/servicer for decades back in the day and nothing in the no-name brands could hold a candle to it. Just saying, good luck.
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Thanks, gents. Much appreciated.

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Re: Bar and Chain Oil Question????

Bar and chain oil is about $8/gallon IIRC. I haven't bought any in years, as I just use filtered drain oil, or more recently drained hydraulic oil. I've saved more than enough by not buying bar and chain oil to replace my bar at least twice, probably more like three times. I've never replaced my bar due to wear, but I did upgrade to a 20" from a 16" so I wouldn't have to bend over as far. My chains wear out from filing long before they wear out due to improper oiling.


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Re: Bar and Chain Oil Question????

Any good tacky oil will work.

Majority of bar wear I've seen is from not sharpening chain when due and excessive force applied to Powerhead to make saw cut.
Tell tail sign is paint burned clear off adjacent chain kerf extending into bar depending on severity.

I typically buy Stihl orange jug. Also have some echo that was good deal at HD.

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Re: Bar and Chain Oil Question????

I buy the generic stuff, usually $7-8 gallon, sometimes less on sales. I don't run a saw for hours at a time like some, so I lose more B&C oil by seepage out on to the ground or floor while the saw is sitting/stored between uses than in real use.

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Re: Bar and Chain Oil Question????

A landowner who was real fussy about the poor quality of bar oil found Service Pro bar and chain oil I split an order of 6 cases, (6 gallons case) of Summer weight. The company delivered it and it came to $7/gallon. Very tacky oil

Another one I like a lot is Essence. It might even be better and that also was in the $7-8 dollar range.

Years ago the Poulon green jug was good too.

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SERVICE PRO® BAR AND CHAIN OIL
Manufactured with virgin base oils
Association of Independent Oil Distributors • www.service-pro.com • P.O. Box 1861 • Montrose, CO 81402 USA
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DESCRIPTION: SERVICE PRO® Bar and Chain Oil is a premium lubricant designed especially for the lubrication of bar
and chains on chain saws, and all types of link chains that require lubrication, including motorcycles and
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SERVICE PRO® Bar and Chain Oil is formulated with highly refined base stocks and an additive package
to assure excellent performance as a chain saw bar and chain lubricant. A special tackifier is added to the
oil, which promotes good adhesion to moving parts and minimizes oil throw off. These oils are designed to
prevent rusting and reduce wear and link breakage thus extending bar and chain life. Penetration into
rivet holes and the bat channel is assured. Down-time and cutting interruptions are minimized.
• Extends bar, chain and sprocket life
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• Reduces heat build-up
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• Different viscosity weights for various ambient temperatures
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Density, 0.8708 0.8808
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@100 Deg. C, cSt 8.21 13.47
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Re: Bar and Chain Oil Question????

I don't have a brand allegience to any bar and chain oil. I have used Stihl, Dolmar, and Efco when I find them on sale. But usually, I buy the Tractor Supply house brand on sale. I don't see appreciable difference in use, nor performance. Other conditions make a bigger difference (type of wood, temperatures, sharpness of chain, size of the round, size of the bar, size of the saw). A good tacky oil and the proper adjustment on the oiler is more important than the color of the jug in my opinion.

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I just bought a saw from a guy who is a serious chainsaw enthusiast, and according to him, as long as it's tacky its fine. Tractor Supply house brand is just fine.

However very different story for 2 cycle gas mix. He told me he only runs ethanol free 90 octane or higher, mixed at 40:1 with Echo RedArmor oil.

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Re: Bar and Chain Oil Question????

I use what I find when I need it. I loose more chains, and bars from hitting a nail, or the ground then poor oil would cause.

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Re: Bar and Chain Oil Question????

I bought the 288XP for a project saw used. It had used motor oil in it and the thing was a disgusting mess and horrible to clean up before the rebuild and porting.

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I bought the 288XP for a project saw used. It had used motor oil in it and the thing was a disgusting mess and horrible to clean up before the rebuild and porting.
Yeah used motor oil is no good. Clean motor oil will work in a pinch but I wouldn't make a habit of it. Nothing wrong with regular store brand bar oil though. I was at TSC today and forgot to grab a gallon. I forgot to get grit for my chickens too so I have to go back up there anyways.

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Re: Bar and Chain Oil Question????

It's odd this thread showed up in my email. I been wondering the same thing. I have a older Stihl 028AV Wood Boss and I been using the stuff from Walmart. So far, it seems to be working fine. I have a Tractor Supply not far off and may try it if it ever goes on sale. <me does a search on websites> Seems Walmart is like $10 a gallon. Tractor Supply is just over $8. On sale or not, better deal. Hmmmmm.

I might add, the jug I'm currently using I put a little Moly in. I had some left over and figured it couldn't hurt. They say the moly is like microscopic ball bearings and a chain running over a bar needs something to "roll" on, right??

I've also been wondering about the gas mix too. Stihl is a bit pricey and hard to get around here. I'm currently using a Sta-Mix brand but have some Briggs Stratton on hand as well. I like the bottles with the little measuring thing on top. Sometimes I only mix a half gallon. It's easier with that little measuring thing on top than opening a can made for one gallon but with no top plus no way to really know where half is either.
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