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Old 09-11-2009, 11:10 PM   post #1 of 18
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Default L118 help - stalling; clicking sound when starting

Hey all, any input would help. I have two questions. For my 2005 L118...

1. When I try to start my JD and turn the key, instead of the engine turning over, I get a clicking noise. I'll turn the key roughly 10x and then it'll finally start. I replaced both plugs, cleaned my battery terminals thoroughly, and the air filter/prefilter were replaced. Even changed out the fuel filter. Is something going bad? Maybe ignition? Coil? Any ideas?

2. Secondly, I have about 120 hours on it. I'll run it for about 20 minutes and it'll want to stall, like it's starving for fuel. I'll put on my choke and it'll help for about a minute, but then it'll finally die. If I try to start it immediately, it won't start. The first time it happened, I waited for about 15 minutes and it started right back up. However it's doing it more often now. One time, when it stalled, I got off the mower, put my ebrake on, flipped the seat, and took off the gas cap. I did this all within one minute of it stalling. Turned the key and it starts right up. I saw something about taking the gas cap off when starting so I just tried it. Worked, but I don't think I have a vent in my gas cap, do i? Anyways, what could be the problem here? I changed my fuel filter and blew in the line to the gas tank to check for clogs. Could it be the coil? Is that easy to change? Ignition? Anything else?

Thanks for your thoughts. Appreciated much.
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since it just clicks when you turn the key, it could be the ignition switch, solenoid, starter or a valve adjustment if it turns over a little and stops. switch or valves could be the reason behind the stalls as well. or it could be a clogged vent, look at the cap you will see a small hole in the middle that is the vent.

have the valves ever been adjusted on it? if not i would do that first.
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Old 09-12-2009, 12:04 AM   post #3 of 18
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i agree with davidg. if it is an OHV which all new ones are now there is a cover over the rockers and take that off and all you need is a feeler gauge a wrench and some screwdrivers. I had that problem once and it kept clicking because the valves were off so it messed up starting. After cranking enough it started. Adjust your valves and it will start easier and its all around better for the life of your engine. Pros say adjust at the start of every season but i think its overkill. All your choice.
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Thanks for the input so far. On my first question, the engine either clicks or turns over. There's no inbetween. For example, I'll hear only a clicking noise for the first five attempts to start. On the 6th, I'll turn the key and the engine will finally turn and it'll start. When the engine turns, it starts.

Secondly, can you give me a quick description on how to adjust the valves. Do you know the specs of the valves adjustments? Where are they located on the engine? Do I have to take the top cover off?

My engine is a 22hp OHV V Twin Briggs. BTW, how many valves do I have?

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you need a set of feeler guages to do it right. yes the valves are on the engine, they are actually IN the engine. remove the valve covers and you will see 2 valves on each side.

send an email to walt connor with you actual model number/type code listed on your serial number plate of the engine. he can give you step by step directions. it only takes a few minutes to do it, and if it's never been done you should anyway since it is a regualr maintenance item on Briggs OHV engines.

as to teh clicking, you really need a volt meter to see what is going on. it could be the switch is getting dirty and not passing full voltage. or it could be the battery is just going bad on you. sometimes when batteries get weak you have to hit the key a few times before they will supply enough juice.
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Old 09-12-2009, 12:48 PM   post #6 of 18
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Default Re: L118 help - stalling; clicking sound when starting

#1-my bet is the battery is on its last legs
pull it and take it to a shop to have it tested
(bad cell etc)
i replaced mine at 135 hours (L130)
same problem
#2-gas tank must be vented- check your cap again for dirt etc
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Default Re: L118 help - stalling; clicking sound when starting

Help, how do I post a new topic? All I can do is reply and I have a billion questions.
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Old 09-12-2009, 12:55 PM   post #8 of 18
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go to the john deere forum homepage
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towards the top right of that page you will see "forum tools"
draw down that box and select "post a new thread"
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Old 09-12-2009, 01:08 PM   post #9 of 18
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Default Re: L118 help - stalling; clicking sound when starting

Again, thanks for the help.

-Yes, my L118 does still has the original battery, so I'll be sure to change it or at least test it.

-Walt Connor? Who is that? Does anyone have his email address? Is he a member on here?

Could I have a bad coil? I heard that you can start the tractor, let it run, and while running, pull a spark plug boot off either side to test if you have a bad coil. Is that true?
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http://www.mytractorforum.com/member.php?u=1229 you cna email him from there.

and yes you can test it by pulling a plug wire.
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Old 09-12-2009, 07:13 PM   post #12 of 18
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Davidg - thanks for the link.

...ok, I just did a coil check on my L118. It ran while I pulled one spark plug boot at a time. I didn't really notice anything different when I pulled one. I let the tractor run about 30 seconds with one boot off at a time. So, I guess my coils are okay? (I loved getting shocked, haha)

Gas cap - wow, it was clogged. So clogged that I didn't even know that there was a hole there. All cleaned out. Maybe that could have been my stalling problem. How could that be a problem though???

Also, I got the same clicking noise again when trying to start my L118. So, I hooked up to my 453rwhp mustang and boom, no click. Started right up. Sounds like a battery to me. (hopefully)
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if the gas cap is clogged then as the fuel goes out of the tank it creates a vacuum. after a while the vacuum is enough that no fuel will flow, and it cuts out. it will do it quicker on a full tank than half full tank, as there is less air so the vacumm forms quicker.

yep, just take the battery to autozone and they cna test it. but if it is original i would just plan on replacing it anyway. most l&g batteries last less than 3 years, though some folks do get 5-6 out of them. my battery still works as good as the day i bought the L130 and it is almost 6 years old. but i figure it will be gone before long.
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i would replace the batt. my 2 have car batts in them and they never give me a problem and its so much nicer because its impossible to run them dead. the specs on you engine is about .06 for the intake and .08 for the exhaust i believe.
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Thanks guys. Another question. I got a set of directions to adjust my valves. They are okay directions, but I never adjusted valves before so I want to make sure I do them right. Has anyone adjusted valves before? Any tips? Is it pretty easy. Sounds like the clearances has to be exact.
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