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johnboggs21 · 08-27-2009, 08:40 PM

Im remaking the machine in my avatar into a racer/mudding machine and have been debating on whether or not to weld the spyder gears in the rearend. Ive had it sunk up to the axle in the mud before and i know the one wheel peal is no good in mud. Mostly im worried about how my steering will be affected. Im sure that the turfs on the rear will slip enough to allow turning especially on a slick surface. Im sure ill have to either add some weight to the front or some different tires. So what do you guys think? Should I weld em up or not?

chopperfreak2k1 · 08-27-2009, 09:12 PM

i say go for it and post lots of pix!! good luck

PaulChristenson · 08-27-2009, 09:14 PM

Before you do anything...you might want to see what mods are allowed...

It must remain suitable for lawn cutting, apart from the modifications permitted in the Handbook.
You can download it from here->>> http://uslmra.org/rules-tech/offical-rules/

johnboggs21 · 08-27-2009, 09:31 PM

well guess itll just be racing my buddies unofficially. Its grass cutting days are long gone. lol

Ironmower · 08-27-2009, 09:41 PM

Rules are for people who are sore losers

saleen49 · 08-27-2009, 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnboggs21

well guess itll just be racing my buddies unofficially. Its grass cutting days are long gone. lol

In that case, go big!

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Mouse · 08-27-2009, 10:31 PM

Can you get NOS ?? My son wants a blower on his! We race on the week ends, when time allows.

Tractor-Holic · 08-27-2009, 11:52 PM

My experiences with a "live" axle on tractors and go carts I either welded pr pinned the rims or differentials on ,to get "posi" made them un-stoppable off road,but also non-steerable ,the front wheels just skid and scrub,instead of the tractor turning.."severe understeer" !!..you'll ploew straight ahead and not turn..

I would not reccomend it,but instead would suggest rigging up some type of individual rear brakes ,so when one wheel spins you can apply the brake on that one only,then the other wheel will become the "drive" wheel--plus you can use the brakes to advantage in cornering too..Chains give great traction in mud,and you CAN mow with chains on,so maybe you could use them too??..

Nouveau Redneck · 08-28-2009, 09:32 AM

Get a transaxle off of a garden tractor that has the pedal activated differential lock, or try to rig your own.

Tractor Master · 08-28-2009, 03:44 PM

I like Tractor-Holics individual brake idea, that would be the best idea on the cheap, Tractor pull tractors have that kind of braking on them since the front wheels come off the ground, and thats how they steer it and they drive in mud just fine. With independent rear brakes you be unstopable in mud, and have the best cornering ability on the track!!

SearsTractorKid · 08-28-2009, 08:32 PM

but john, still if your gonna only have a 4 horse on there, i seriously think this wont go to well. Sorry but its just My 2 cents. your just wont have much torque

madmantrapper · 08-28-2009, 11:08 PM

When I was a kid, my father and older brother put two 250 cc Yamaha twins on a go cart with the 5 speed gear boxes. Man what a ride.

johnboggs21 · 08-28-2009, 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SearsTractorKid

but john, still if your gonna only have a 4 horse on there, i seriously think this wont go to well. Sorry but its just My 2 cents. your just wont have much torque

Ive got a lead on an 8 horse, so im gonna see about that instead

johnboggs21 · 09-03-2009, 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tractor-Holic

My experiences with a "live" axle on tractors and go carts I either welded pr pinned the rims or differentials on ,to get "posi" made them un-stoppable off road,but also non-steerable ,the front wheels just skid and scrub,instead of the tractor turning.."severe understeer" !!..you'll ploew straight ahead and not turn..

I would not reccomend it,but instead would suggest rigging up some type of individual rear brakes ,so when one wheel spins you can apply the brake on that one only,then the other wheel will become the "drive" wheel--plus you can use the brakes to advantage in cornering too..Chains give great traction in mud,and you CAN mow with chains on,so maybe you could use them too??..

I plan on running chains for sure. As for individual brakes i like that idea. The problem im having is that I aint got enough legs to run everything. At this point is trying to think up a way to set the brakes up so that i can use them the same time as the other pedals. Im starting to think that i may just have to have 2 handles for the brakes so that i can use them. Guess I better practice steering while going fast with one hand.lol

08-27-2009, 08:40 PM	#1
johnboggs21 The Link King Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: michigan Posts: 754 MTF Member # 9494	Racing tractor Im remaking the machine in my avatar into a racer/mudding machine and have been debating on whether or not to weld the spyder gears in the rearend. Ive had it sunk up to the axle in the mud before and i know the one wheel peal is no good in mud. Mostly im worried about how my steering will be affected. Im sure that the turfs on the rear will slip enough to allow turning especially on a slick surface. Im sure ill have to either add some weight to the front or some different tires. So what do you guys think? Should I weld em up or not? __________________ I'm gonna sign my name in that diesel smoke and let the ones that come along behind me choke! http://murray.forumotion.com

08-27-2009, 09:12 PM	#2
chopperfreak2k1 Senior MTF Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: latrobe, PA Posts: 164 MTF Member # 9551	Re: Racing tractor i say go for it and post lots of pix!! good luck

08-27-2009, 09:14 PM	#3
PaulChristenson Rara Avis Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Vermont Posts: 3,976 MTF Member # 8602	Re: Racing tractor Before you do anything...you might want to see what mods are allowed... It must remain suitable for lawn cutting, apart from the modifications permitted in the Handbook. You can download it from here->>> http://uslmra.org/rules-tech/offical-rules/ __________________ Paul in VT The information is provided without warranty of any kind. I give no warranties either expressed or implied, including warranties of merchantability and fitness for a particular purpose. In no event shall I be liable for any damages whatsoever including direct, indirect, incidental, consequential, loss of business profits or special damages, even if I have been advised of the possibility of such damages.

08-27-2009, 09:31 PM	#4
johnboggs21 The Link King Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: michigan Posts: 754 MTF Member # 9494	Re: Racing tractor well guess itll just be racing my buddies unofficially. Its grass cutting days are long gone. lol __________________ I'm gonna sign my name in that diesel smoke and let the ones that come along behind me choke! http://murray.forumotion.com

08-27-2009, 09:41 PM	#5
Ironmower Senior MTF Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: West Virginia Posts: 205 MTF Member # 25539	Re: Racing tractor Rules are for people who are sore losers

08-27-2009, 10:31 PM	#7
Mouse Senior MTF Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Indiana Posts: 533 MTF Member # 29420	Re: Racing tractor Can you get NOS ?? My son wants a blower on his! We race on the week ends, when time allows.

08-27-2009, 11:52 PM	#8
Tractor-Holic 3K Poster!!!! Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: MA Posts: 4,690 MTF Member # 8867	Re: Racing tractor My experiences with a "live" axle on tractors and go carts I either welded pr pinned the rims or differentials on ,to get "posi" made them un-stoppable off road,but also non-steerable ,the front wheels just skid and scrub,instead of the tractor turning.."severe understeer" !!..you'll ploew straight ahead and not turn.. I would not reccomend it,but instead would suggest rigging up some type of individual rear brakes ,so when one wheel spins you can apply the brake on that one only,then the other wheel will become the "drive" wheel--plus you can use the brakes to advantage in cornering too..Chains give great traction in mud,and you CAN mow with chains on,so maybe you could use them too??..

08-28-2009, 09:32 AM	#9
Nouveau Redneck Senior MTF Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 285 MTF Member # 19566	Re: Racing tractor Get a transaxle off of a garden tractor that has the pedal activated differential lock, or try to rig your own. __________________ Nouveau Redneck Sean in PA 1973 Ford 4000 3-cyl gas w/Select-o-Speed & 50 inch Woods rotary mower 2008 John Deere X500 w/54c deck, 48" snow blade and 48" shovel 1995 Cub Cadet 1420 hydro w/46" deck

08-28-2009, 03:44 PM	#10
Tractor Master MTF Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Aubrey, Texas Posts: 64 MTF Member # 27584	Re: Racing tractor I like Tractor-Holics individual brake idea, that would be the best idea on the cheap, Tractor pull tractors have that kind of braking on them since the front wheels come off the ground, and thats how they steer it and they drive in mud just fine. With independent rear brakes you be unstopable in mud, and have the best cornering ability on the track!! __________________ 1988 MTD 852 Garden Tractor "Big Red", 1987 MTD Montgomery Wards "Mighty Monty" 1981 Craftsman LTV10(very rusty)"Rusticide" tow tractor project 1990 MTD Tradesman, 1982 Murray 11/36(rusty) 1976 Sears LT10/36(super rusty), '95 Craftsman, 20 pushmowers, 6 edgers and 2 go-karts

08-28-2009, 08:32 PM	#11
SearsTractorKid Addicted To Tractors Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Manitoba Posts: 76 MTF Member # 23916	Re: Racing tractor but john, still if your gonna only have a 4 horse on there, i seriously think this wont go to well. Sorry but its just My 2 cents. your just wont have much torque __________________ 1971 Sears Suburban with Hyrdraulic Loader (12hp Tehcumseh) 198? John Deere 130 with mower deck and plow blade (9hp Kawisaki) 1974 Sears SS16, Snowblower (16hp Onan Twin) 1975 Eaton Viking D6000 had a deck, 5hp Briggs and Stratton 1990's Craftsman II Mud Mower (12.5 hp Briggs, 11hp head, walbro racing carburator) 1993 Ariens Gt With Deck (Keeping It Stock) (16.5 Tecumseh OHV) CHECK OUT MY YOUTUBE CHANNEL, ALL OF MY TRACTORS ARE ON THERE

08-28-2009, 11:08 PM	#12
madmantrapper All Fired Up Join Date: May 2009 Location: Maryland Posts: 62 MTF Member # 26869	Re: Racing tractor When I was a kid, my father and older brother put two 250 cc Yamaha twins on a go cart with the 5 speed gear boxes. Man what a ride.

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