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![]() I recently purchased this Wheel Horse tiller. I am looking for a manual or someone who has one that can advise me on how to operate it. Here are my problems. 1. The tines do not move unless the tiller is running and the clutch is engaged. How am I supposed to pull the tiller to the location that I want to till if it doesn't roll? 2. When I engage the clutch the tiller functions normally, moving in a forward motion tilling the ground in its path. When I am done, I have to stop the tractor in order to turn around and disengage the the clutch. During this time the tiller continues moving forward. I do not have time to disengage the clutch without it trying to climb up the back of the tractor. What is the proper method of disengaging the clutch? The issue I am having is that it doesn't appear to have a way to lift the tines off the ground. Is it possible that I am missing a part? Your advice is appreciated. Thanks, Rich
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I can't tell with the tongue on the ground but I'm gonna guess and say that you would raise the attachment lift to put the tiller onto the wheels to transport. Maybe the hitch has been changed?
As far as clutch engagement I have no idea. I think if nothing else I would kill the tiller to stop the tines when done or raise it onto the wheels as above. I would also think it's kinda hard to find a manual without a model number. I see a couple of tags or labels of some kind. You might have better luck with this question in the WH forum. Ted
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I found a manual. Here is what it says.
OPERATION The tiller is raised and lowered by using the tractor lift lever or hydraulic control. Depth is controlled by forward speed of the tractor, a slow speed results in deep tilling and faster speeds result in shallower tilling. I don't know what the tractor lift is.
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Looking at the tongue on your tiller--you would use the older "sleeve hitch' on the tractor--which lifts w/ a cable-controlled from operator's seat...
If you go to Toro website--type in your model number off that--you sdhould be able to download a manual..-- Maybe Bill P. will come on here w/ more knowledge--I've seen one @ his house like that--or someone else here..
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Didn't WH have a "slot hitch"? It just doesn't look like a sleeve to me. But I've never had a real WH - just Toro XL type.
I H8 UM here is what a sleeve hitch on a GT looks like in the down position. ![]() And in the up position. ![]() They can lift quite a bit of weight but not as much as a 3 point hitch. Ted
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he. pulling it with a cub cadet not a wheelhorse, there is no rear lift on the cub, but you should get one like xpostech i think you can mod it to if pretty easy good luck james
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I think I will buy an inexpensive old used Wheel Horse tractor with the sleeve hitch on it. That should do it.
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That 3100 can handle it. FastAttach (Agri-Fab) makes a universal sleeve hitch that will fit. Johnny (Buckets) also makes one to fit yours with electric actuator but he's proud of 'em.
What deck lift do you have on the Cub? Ted
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I haven't been able to find a sleeve hitch that fits my GT3100. Agri-Fab doesn't show any on their website. A post on another website says it doesn't fit any Cub Cadet with the transmission fill on the back of the tractor. My GT3100 has that. If anyone knows what I need, please let me know.
I have the 60" deck on it with hydraulic lift. Thanks, Rich
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Hmm . . . The Cub web site leaves a little to be desired.
But . . . In the attachments for the 3100 I found: 190-207 Cat. "O" Hydraulic 3-Point Hitch 190-288 Hydraulic Angling Kit 190-171 Manual Angle Kit The 3 Point with a sleeve adapter will get you there but that's a convoluted way to do it. Another convolution would be a 3 point on the tiller. I couldn't get any other info or images on the kits above. The angling kits may be for a plow or they may some marketing genius's idea of a sleeve hitch. Somewhere on Johnny's site I saw (or thought I saw) a hitch being adapted for the 3000 series. Since you have hydraulics that would be the way to go. Lots of tractors used the same lift mechanism for the deck and sleeve hitch with a cable, arm, rod or other linkage from one to the other. The huge lift arm on the hitch pic I posted isn't that necessary. That isn't my tractor, BTW. ![]() Since most sleeve hitches detach with one bolt, I don't understand the restriction you cited about the rear fill for the transaxle (cast iron). :goodl Ted
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SKU Number: 4440252 Manual Sleeve; Fast-Attach Type; Black Color; Steel Material; For Lawn & Garden Tractors Ted
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