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Old 05-31-2008, 02:37 PM   post #1 of 19
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Hi Guys/Gals, I have a 1973, 42" cut, 12 HP, hydro, electric start/pto WH that I purchased new and am in the process of restoring. The charging system quit some time ago, consequently the electric pto pulls the battery down. I don't have any manuals so am at a loss as to what I need. Any ideas? Many thanks, TJN/56Nomad
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Old 05-31-2008, 03:09 PM   post #2 of 19
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More than likely you have a wiring issue or could be something a s simple as a blown fuse if it has any. On my C-160 It was overcharging went I bought it and it turned out to be the regulator. I ended up using one from a Craftsman GVT/16 until I can find the correct one I need. Below you will find a link to Kohler that has all the specs as well as shows you how to test the stator and some of the generic wiring harnesses. Although they are not wheel horse specific one can use then to figure out usually what need to be wired up . Hope this can be of help as I am new here too and want to be of help as well when I can.

http://www.kohlerengines.com/common/...es/tp_2379.pdf
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Kyforeman, cute kids! Thanks for the website, electrical is not my bag! TJN/56Nomad
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Old 05-31-2008, 04:47 PM   post #4 of 19
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On the Kohler its a fairly easy set up if its just the two wire set up coming form the engine stator as they are the ones with the AC voltage that goes to the regulator to be converted to Dc and to be stepped down in voltage. Follow the testing methods in the book. A god volt meter would be a handy tool to have and you can get a good digital one at most any auto parts store for less than 20.00 or ebay for that matter. Any questions ask away and I'm sure someone will be along to help. Yep the kids are cute, they just don't stay that way forever though. I just got done playing on ebay and I know its not a Wheel horse and all please for give me but look at my new toy.
Its a 1971 JD 140 H3 These are the auction pics as I haven't got her home yet.
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Old 05-31-2008, 08:51 PM   post #5 of 19
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That the one off Ebay in Versailles?? I REALLY thought about biddin on it..
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Old 05-31-2008, 10:23 PM   post #6 of 19
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Yep thats the one, I really dont think that it is indeed a patio tractor, but the hood could have came form one I suppose. Will know more when I go pick it up.
Now I need to figure out what I need to sell to make some room around here as its starting to get piled up again.
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Old 06-02-2008, 10:47 PM   post #7 of 19
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Hi Guys/Gals, I have a 1973, 42" cut, 12 HP, hydro, electric start/pto WH that I purchased new and am in the process of restoring. The charging system quit some time ago, consequently the electric pto pulls the battery down. I don't have any manuals so am at a loss as to what I need. Any ideas? Many thanks, TJN/56Nomad
I have a similar tractor, a 73 14hp auto. The spade terminals on the back of the regulator were rusty on mine - I scratched them up a bit and its been working fine for the last 4 years.

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Old 06-03-2008, 07:13 AM   post #8 of 19
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Hi Guys/Gals, I have a 1973, 42" cut, 12 HP, hydro, electric start/pto WH that I purchased new and am in the process of restoring. The charging system quit some time ago, consequently the electric pto pulls the battery down. I don't have any manuals so am at a loss as to what I need. Any ideas? Many thanks, TJN/56Nomad
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Have you figured out your issue with your charging system yet? If not and have a volt meter find the two wires coming from the stator and measure the voltage from these at high rpm, the manual claims you should have around 28 volts. Make sure you have your meter set to Ac for that part of the test. If that is showing ok the check the regulator side. Again it could be a bad stator,regulator,fuse, or even a bad ground or wiring. Just trace it down in steps and it should be a simple fix.

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Old 06-03-2008, 09:18 AM   post #9 of 19
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Have you figured out your issue with your charging system yet? If not and have a volt meter find the two wires coming from the stator and measure the voltage from these at high rpm, the manual claims you should have around 28 volts. Make sure you have your meter set to Ac for that part of the test. If that is showing ok the check the regulator side. Again it could be a bad stator,regulator,fuse, or even a bad ground or wiring. Just trace it down in steps and it should be a simple fix.

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So you're saying test the stator with the volt meter on AC, not DC? Interesting. I'm troubleshooting a charging issue with my tractor and I'm getting a 0 reading on the stator leads when on the DC side of my multimeter. Hmmm, time to do more testing tonight! Maybe I'll get lucky and it's just the regulator that's bad.
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It's not DC current till it goes thru the rectifier.
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Old 06-03-2008, 09:53 AM   post #11 of 19
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It's not DC current till it goes thru the rectifier.
Yeah, that lightbulb went off in my head after reading kyforeman's post.
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Yeah, that lightbulb went off in my head after reading kyforeman's post.
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If its a Kohler charging system follow this link and goto page 80 or so and go through the testing section. Should get you up and going. If your Regulator is a solid state non adjustable one a lot of times they simply stop working because the terminals get corroded. I have actually removed the terminals and soldered the wiring directly in place as long as the regulator was working ok.
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Mike,
If its a Kohler charging system follow this link and goto page 80 or so and go through the testing section. Should get you up and going. If your Regulator is a solid state non adjustable one a lot of times they simply stop working because the terminals get corroded. I have actually removed the terminals and soldered the wiring directly in place as long as the regulator was working ok.
Oops, My lightbulb just flickered abit and forgot that link,

http://www.kohlerengines.com/common/...es/tp_2379.pdf
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And I thought it was just me!!!!
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Old 06-03-2008, 09:30 PM   post #15 of 19
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Sorekiwi, Where exactly IS that regulator? Thanks, TJN/56Nomad?1973, 42"cut, WH, Hydro
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