Pressure relief valve for Deere X-series - MyTractorForum.com - The Friendliest Tractor Forum and Best Place for Tractor Information
Register Home FAQ Garage MTF Gallery Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read Store Chat Room

Johnny Products Johnny Buckets and more!!! The Voice Of The Common Man With The Common Yard

 
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 12-20-2006, 08:51 PM   post #1 of 23
whbob
MTF Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 80
MTF Member # 4111
Default Pressure relief valve for Deere X-series

I just purchased a John Deere X740 with 16 hours that had been returned to the dealer within 30 days of the first sale. I planned to order a JB Sr. in January. However there is some discussion on the net about the need for a pressure relief valve for the hydro (not to be confused with the cut-off valve) and a new free wheeling lever to prevent damage to the hydro from hydraulic back pressure.

Is this rubbish? Are any present users using this?

I do not intend to break any granite stones with the JB, just move loose material.

Any thoughts?
whbob is offline   Quick reply to this message
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 12-20-2006, 09:44 PM   post #2 of 23
Hardscrabble
Senior MTF Member
 
Hardscrabble's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Illinois
Posts: 235
MTF Member # 4174
Default Re: Pressure relief valve for Deere X-series

I've got a JD X485 with a JB Sr. I had the dealer add the pressure relief valve and the divertor cutoff valve. Don't remember the cost. I believe these items come standard as part of the OEM loader assembly but you will need to add them yourself since the JB Sr. does not come with them. No trouble with my JB Sr. and I have moved some pretty good size loads. I don't remember having to do anything with the freewheeling control.
Hardscrabble is offline   Quick reply to this message
Old 12-21-2006, 04:29 PM   post #3 of 23
DeereBob
Senior MTF Member
 
DeereBob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Darien, IL
Posts: 208
MTF Member # 139
Images: 1
Default Re: Pressure relief valve for Deere X-series

I've had my JBSr. for a couple of years and this is the first time I have heard anything about a pressure relief valve required. I've used it pretty heavily two summers ago and noticed no odd performance or any damage to the control arm. Sometimes the bucket response is slow but that may because I forgot to turn the bypass valve to the opposite position I use for just mowing. My X485 is 4.5 years old now so if there were any problems, I'd probably experienced them by now.
__________________
John Deere X485 AWS 48" Deck, Power Flow with 3 Bag Bagger, 46" Single Stage Snowthrower, Quick Hitch, 54" Blade, 2" Ball Hitch and JBSr.
DeereBob is offline   Quick reply to this message
Old 12-21-2006, 07:01 PM   post #4 of 23
whbob
MTF Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 80
MTF Member # 4111
Default Re: Pressure relief valve for Deere X-series

Anybody outthere in Deere world know what the pressure relief valve does and what is it application on the X-Series. Is it required for loaders? Is it required for 3ph use? This may be more of a deere question than a JB question.

Also, I believe that Simplicity is using the same K92 transmission which deere has used since the 455 series. This would probably apply to them.
whbob is offline   Quick reply to this message
Old 12-22-2006, 07:34 AM   post #5 of 23
JDPROFESSOR
Senior MTF Member
 
JDPROFESSOR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: South Eastern Mi.
Posts: 305
MTF Member # 4001
Images: 1
Default Re: Pressure relief valve for Deere X-series

The Rel-valve is needed when the John Deere loader is installed. Not needed with the J-Bucket.
The reason you need it; if you had a heavy load in the bucket, had it up in the air, and dropped it quickly, you would get a pressure spike. The Rel-V is used to protect the system.
__________________
The good old days pulling the GREEN!!
JDPROFESSOR is offline   Quick reply to this message
Old 12-22-2006, 08:36 AM   post #6 of 23
JDFANATIC
9K+ Poster
 
JDFANATIC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Central Connecticut
Posts: 11,301
MTF Member # 41
Images: 1
Garage
Default Re: Pressure relief valve for Deere X-series

Professor,

Isn't this the same as the bypass valve DeereBob mentioned?
__________________
Cheers

JDFANATIC
JD2210, loaded tires, 62C MMM, 210 Loader, 47" Snowblower, York Rake, PTO Spreader, Heated Cab, JD Plug Aerator, FIMCO Sprayer, Wheel Spacers, FEMCO Folding ROPS, JD Cart, Stihl MS170 and HT101, Wallenstein BX32 PTO Chipper
JDFANATIC is offline   Quick reply to this message
Old 12-22-2006, 09:03 AM   post #7 of 23
JDPROFESSOR
Senior MTF Member
 
JDPROFESSOR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: South Eastern Mi.
Posts: 305
MTF Member # 4001
Images: 1
Default Re: Pressure relief valve for Deere X-series

No! The Rel-valve mounts on top of the hydro unit. The by-pass valve mounts on the back side of the hydraulic valve that operates the front equipment. The outlets that are used to angle the blade, operate the bucket on the loader or angle the chute on the snowthrower and raise and lower the mower deck are all operated with the same hydraulic valve. The bypass valve or better known as the shut off valve is used to turn off the flow of oil to the mower lift cylinder, when one of the front att. are being used.
If you don't shut off the flow to the cylinder the front att. will operate much slower than normal, the blade will angle on it's own when pushing a heavy load.
__________________
The good old days pulling the GREEN!!
JDPROFESSOR is offline   Quick reply to this message
Old 12-22-2006, 10:27 AM   post #8 of 23
JDFANATIC
9K+ Poster
 
JDFANATIC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Central Connecticut
Posts: 11,301
MTF Member # 41
Images: 1
Garage
Default Re: Pressure relief valve for Deere X-series

Thanks for the clarification!
__________________
Cheers

JDFANATIC
JD2210, loaded tires, 62C MMM, 210 Loader, 47" Snowblower, York Rake, PTO Spreader, Heated Cab, JD Plug Aerator, FIMCO Sprayer, Wheel Spacers, FEMCO Folding ROPS, JD Cart, Stihl MS170 and HT101, Wallenstein BX32 PTO Chipper
JDFANATIC is offline   Quick reply to this message
Old 12-22-2006, 02:24 PM   post #9 of 23
whbob
MTF Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 80
MTF Member # 4111
Default Re: Pressure relief valve for Deere X-series

I want to thank everyone for their help in educating us about this.

I will use the funds that I would have spent on the PR valve on the JB-Sr.
whbob is offline   Quick reply to this message
Old 12-22-2006, 03:32 PM   post #10 of 23
JDPROFESSOR
Senior MTF Member
 
JDPROFESSOR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: South Eastern Mi.
Posts: 305
MTF Member # 4001
Images: 1
Default Re: Pressure relief valve for Deere X-series

WHBOB

You may want to look at the following pics. and viedos.
This bucket makes the JB look like a toy.









__________________
The good old days pulling the GREEN!!
JDPROFESSOR is offline   Quick reply to this message
Old 12-22-2006, 03:49 PM   post #11 of 23
DeereBob
Senior MTF Member
 
DeereBob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Darien, IL
Posts: 208
MTF Member # 139
Images: 1
Default Re: Pressure relief valve for Deere X-series

Don't be too quick to cite the virtues or your bucket versus ours. Yours requires a $500 quick hitch and mowing deck removal while ours doesn't but still can handle close to the same volume of material (3 cu. ft.) and lift 300 pounds. Plus yellow looks better than green!!!
__________________
John Deere X485 AWS 48" Deck, Power Flow with 3 Bag Bagger, 46" Single Stage Snowthrower, Quick Hitch, 54" Blade, 2" Ball Hitch and JBSr.

Last edited by DeereBob; 12-22-2006 at 03:54 PM.
DeereBob is offline   Quick reply to this message
Old 12-22-2006, 04:22 PM   post #12 of 23
silver hair deere
Old as Sin
 
silver hair deere's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: TN
Posts: 2,101
MTF Member # 4257
Images: 4
Default Re: Pressure relief valve for Deere X-series

hello all

how about the or-bilt loader it lifts about 400 lbs. up about 50 inches and only costs about 500.00 more

silver hair deere

p.s. there web is www.or-bilt.com
silver hair deere is offline   Quick reply to this message
Old 12-22-2006, 04:31 PM   post #13 of 23
DeereBob
Senior MTF Member
 
DeereBob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Darien, IL
Posts: 208
MTF Member # 139
Images: 1
Default Re: Pressure relief valve for Deere X-series

Silver Hair,
Now you're talkin'!! If I had known about it, I might have considered it over the JBSr. just for the extra lift height. However, I'm not sure it would work on my AWS tractor since JD doesn't recommend a FEL with AWS for safety reasons. But for 2WS tractors, that loader looks pretting appealing both on a price and size basis versus the JD one.
__________________
John Deere X485 AWS 48" Deck, Power Flow with 3 Bag Bagger, 46" Single Stage Snowthrower, Quick Hitch, 54" Blade, 2" Ball Hitch and JBSr.
DeereBob is offline   Quick reply to this message
Old 12-22-2006, 05:17 PM   post #14 of 23
whbob
MTF Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 80
MTF Member # 4111
Default Re: Pressure relief valve for Deere X-series

JDProfessor - who makes this scoop. Do they have a web site?
whbob is offline   Quick reply to this message
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 12-22-2006, 06:26 PM   post #15 of 23
JDPROFESSOR
Senior MTF Member
 
JDPROFESSOR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: South Eastern Mi.
Posts: 305
MTF Member # 4001
Images: 1
Default Re: Pressure relief valve for Deere X-series

The mower deck does NOT have to be removed.
There are grease fittings at all pivot points.
Hardware is grade 8
The frame is stronger built than the JB
In most cases the customer already has the quick-tatch hitch because they have
a blade or blower.
The lift cap. is over twice what the JB is.
.
These buckets are locale made, no web site
__________________
The good old days pulling the GREEN!!
JDPROFESSOR is offline   Quick reply to this message
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
 

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the MyTractorForum.com - The Friendliest Tractor Forum and Best Place for Tractor Information forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:

Log-in

Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:30 AM.



Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Garage Plus vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.
Compact Tractor Reviews Tractor Reviews Snowblowers Lawn Mower Forum
My Tractor Forum Snow Thrower Power Equipment Forum
Combine Forum Snowblower Forum ATV and UTV Reviews