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Old 02-06-2013, 01:32 PM   post #16 of 37
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I would buy it for parts for my 430 and other projects if nothing else. For $500 you could ignore the problems and part the thing out and probably clear $5-600 on it, without a rear PTO.
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Old 02-06-2013, 01:35 PM   post #17 of 37
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Heck, it's in the back of Glockem's C-130 right now.
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Old 02-07-2013, 04:31 PM   post #18 of 37
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Thanks for all the help and input. I talked to the gentleman selling this machine last night. I told him my concerns about the posi not working and me having to buy parts for the front pto to be able to put on a snowblower and we settled on a greatly reduced price. I hope to pick it up in the next two days.

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Old 02-07-2013, 04:45 PM   post #19 of 37
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Good buy!
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Old 02-07-2013, 05:01 PM   post #20 of 37
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Glad it didn't get away from you.
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Old 02-07-2013, 05:02 PM   post #21 of 37
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Default Re: John Deere 420 good buy? *update*

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we settled on a greatly reduced price.

SAY WHAT....

Congrats! I will be looking forward to a

"My 420 refurb" thread
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Old 02-07-2013, 05:10 PM   post #22 of 37
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Just to confirm your rear end issue,
Are you saying it won't move unless you engage the locking rear diff and then only one wheel turns?
If that is the case the wheel that will not turn has a broken axle.
Fairly common on the early ones and a fairly easy repair.Tons of used axles available on ePay and other locations.
Like stated I would buy it and dig into it provided you are mechanically inclined.
If you get into and find something too serious then sell the rear pto for $800ish and part out the rest.
On the front pto the extra pulley and extension was an add on kit it is not part of the original front pto.There should be a pulley on the front of the motor with a belt going down to another pulley that drives that center spindle.
Mower deck drive shaft attaches to the back of that to drive the mower deck.
To run front pto equipment a front add on set up was needed.
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On edit,There are a couple different pto styles for that rear.The expensive one was a 2000 rpm gear box to run shaft driven rear implements.
There is also a belt driven style that operated a rear bagger that is not worth near as much money.
Just so you don't go in expecting to sell it to fund things and find the less expensive one.


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Old 02-07-2013, 05:57 PM   post #23 of 37
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SAY WHAT....
Final price was $250

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I can't say I know exactly how the drive unit works on these. From what I understand is when you shift out of neutral it starts to drive in posi. when you press the red pedal/button with your right foot only one wheel is engaged.

Please confirm how this works.

What happens on this one is when you shift out of neutral nothing happens then when you depress the red pedal/button (I don't know what is really called) it takes off in one wheel drive, the right wheel. I don't know if it's an axle or linkage adjustment. From what I understand the posi worked when the guy bought it form the city.

The front PTO, there is the pulley in front of the motor and it appears that the lower PTO drive shaft is there but I didn't see the lower PTO pulley or the horizontal belt tensioner.

It has the rear shaft PTO. I visually saw it and saw it turning.

I guess I'll see what I have when I get it home.
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Old 02-07-2013, 09:53 PM   post #24 of 37
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When you take off out of neutral it should move on its own.When the red button is pushed it goes into lock mode and both wheels will then turn.What you are describing is the left axle is broken.If you move the lever forward and it does not move then the load is being transferred to left wheel and it is not moving.When you engage the posi by pushing the red button both wheels lock and only the right wheel turns so the left axle is broken most likely.Like I said,common for the early units.Used parts are readily available to fix it and I am pretty sure new is still available too.

Sounds like the pto is missing part of it.There should be a belt connecting the two and the lower pulley set up in place.If there is no lower pulley then it was removed at one time for one reason or another.You can snap some pictures when you get it and we can help you figure out what is missing.

On the rear pto both units had a shaft coming from the rear to a clutch.Clutch either attached to a set of pulleys or a gear box.
Again pictures when you get it will clear it up.

Still a definite yes even though it is going to need a good bit of work.You can assess to fix or part it when you get it.Plenty of parts to make way more than the $250 invested.

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Old 02-08-2013, 07:33 PM   post #25 of 37
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AJ,

Thanks for the help. I'll have to see what I have when I get it home. It sounds like I'm in for a new axle and some parts for the front PTO. I'll keep you posted.
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Old 02-08-2013, 10:56 PM   post #26 of 37
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Glad to help Lucas.
I look forward to pictures.

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Old 02-09-2013, 01:14 AM   post #27 of 37
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Buy! Buy! Buy! A non-functioning 420 goes for more than that... and when i say non-functioning... I mean push it on the trailer...
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Old 02-09-2013, 08:49 AM   post #28 of 37
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BillC is right; I would probably be happy paying for a 420 like yours, but it wouldn't run.
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Old 02-09-2013, 03:22 PM   post #29 of 37
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Yeah $250 for that?? It would be gone around here weeks ago. Heck I'd try to sneak it home and I just made a major purchase LOL Look forward to a resto thread.
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Old 02-09-2013, 07:27 PM   post #30 of 37
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Oh yeah i would have bought it for $250. Good buy even with the problems. **** 210's are going for more then that around here.
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