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Old 07-16-2012, 02:24 AM   post #1 of 15
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Default Keeping the blades engaged in reverse on the X500

I have a 09 X500 and the warranty will be out next spring and I would really like to fix it so that when you go in reverse you don't have to pull the switch up. Is there a bypass or some sort of disconnect that can be done to keep the switch from disengaging the blades in reverse if you don't pull up on it? I can't count the number of times I've not pulled up quick enough and ended up having to stop and re engage the blades. Any and all help is appreciated guys, thanks!
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Old 07-16-2012, 03:11 AM   post #2 of 15
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Default Re: Keeping the blades engaged in reverse on the X500

This is one of those "things" that we are not allowed to discuss here...
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Old 07-16-2012, 10:31 AM   post #3 of 15
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Default Re: Keeping the blades engaged in reverse on the X500

Yup, good luck getting any info to help you bypass the system. It is a safety precaution and board rules wont allow people to bypass them. Goes with other things like safety seat switch or chute deflectors. Maybe try google and see what you come up with
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Old 07-16-2012, 10:37 AM   post #4 of 15
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Default Re: Keeping the blades engaged in reverse on the X500

To be specific, we don't allow anyone to post 'how to bypass' safety switch advice. If you do it you have to find another source than from a post on MTF. Can not stop you from doing it.
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Old 07-16-2012, 10:53 AM   post #5 of 15
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I wonder how we all lived so long without all these safety gizmos? I mean easy spin starting where you step on the deck and pull straight up to start a push mower, no safety swith on the bars, heck even throttles on the engine with no cables. Made us smarter I think because we had to use our noggins and learn the mechanics of things.

I can't count how many times I have stood up on my 3720 so I can see my fork tips and guide into a pallet or a log rack.
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Old 07-16-2012, 11:02 AM   post #6 of 15
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5. No Illegal/unsafe Suggestions. Please no pointers, how-tos,etc of any illegal/unsafe practices. (example: By-passing Safety Switches)

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just a friendly reminder. The site's policy is and always has been that allowing pointers to bypass safeties in the open forum is forbidden.
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Old 07-16-2012, 12:23 PM   post #7 of 15
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I'm just curious as to if you know that once you lift that switch up and start to travel in reverse you can let it go as soon as you start to move? Then both hands are free to do what ever you want to do with them? I imagine you could mow your whole lawn in reverse if you need to.
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Old 07-16-2012, 12:33 PM   post #8 of 15
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Sorry guys didn't mean to get anyone in trouble, myself included. I didn't even think about liabilities as far as possibly the site getting sued b/c someone getting hurt because they did the procedure. I apologize. Now, Its ashame that we've become a country where everybody is chomping at the bit to sue someone to "get rick quick". Just takes a few bad apples to spoil the barrel I guess.
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Old 07-16-2012, 03:44 PM   post #9 of 15
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I wonder how we all lived so long without all these safety gizmos?

I can't count how many times I have stood up on my 3720 so I can see my fork tips and guide into a pallet or a log rack.
Yup, We're protecting ourselves from ourselves.

Better question would be, "Whatever happen to pure Common Sense."

How many bicycle helmets did you wear as a kid?
Remember riding in the back of a pickup as a kid on hot days?
How about drinking from a garden hose and live to tell about it.
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Yup, We're protecting ourselves from ourselves.

Better question would be, "Whatever happen to pure Common Sense."

How many bicycle helmets did you wear as a kid?
And ride bicycle on right side with traffic walk on left facing traffic. I don't think the old rules changed, but they sure get ignored...
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Old 07-16-2012, 04:24 PM   post #11 of 15
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Well KATT's not afraid to tell you how to defeat the switch.

1. Park machine safely ( See... Parking Safety in the SAFETY section)
2. Remove key from ignition See... Using Key switch and Headlamps
3.Set parking brake See... Testing Parking Brake
4.Remove spark plug(s) See... Checking Spark Plugs
5.Remove mower deck See... Removing Mower Deck (48 and 54)
6Locate the Reverse Implement Option (RIO) switch... You will find this........ Hey Brett what are you doing with that big stick??!! Hey..................

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Old 07-16-2012, 05:31 PM   post #12 of 15
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I'm not familiar with the JD line, but my Kubota GR had a feature that once the RIO was engaged, it would stay engaged until the mower deck was disengaged. Perhaps this is because accidentally trying to mow in reverse would kill the engine, not just disengage the blades.

There was a procedure in the owner's manual that detailed how to defeat the override, so that you couldn't mow in reverse at all.
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Old 07-16-2012, 06:30 PM   post #13 of 15
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So, fiddling with the RIO switch when backing promotes safety??? You would think having an obnoxious back-up alarm would be more effective. Since I think it safer to concentrate on backing, I don't feel bad about bypassing it when I mow (but I'm not telling how)
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I don't like the switches and at best all they do is keep you from being chopped up after you have been backed over. And then it might not even help depending on the consciousness of the operator. Back up alarms are only so effective also. Most times people put a machine in reverse then look back, sometimes that is to late. After being around heavy equipment all my life don't ask me how I know this. Unless people are aware that someone is behind them that is how most of them usually proceed. I have never seen anyone get hurt thank God.
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Old 07-16-2012, 07:18 PM   post #15 of 15
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I think this thread has run it's course, normally we don't even leave these open, and the above post that was deleted is one of the reasons why. Eventually someone will try to provide a "work around" .
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