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Old 12-24-2011, 03:27 PM   post #1 of 46
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Default Front mount blade for 8n???

I am thinking about trying to mount this. Has anyone done it??

I am only using this for snow so it does not need to heavy duty. And I am going to use a Gravely GT snow blade. lol
It will need to be widened and frame modified to mount ,,,and work with the 3 point lift. A cable on each side up to the front,,arms on lift tighten cables(though pulleys and lift the blade,,, in the front)

I just slid the blade under tractor and took a peak. There is little to nowhere to mount any brackets. The hitch in the back would work for strength in pushing,,and the front bumper would work to attach pulleys/cables for lifting.
But I need something in the middle to hold blade frame up off ground,,would really have little tension on it. I don't see much to grab onto with a bracket.

If I'm going to keep this tractor,,I need to find a use for it!!!

The way it looks I will be able to modify the hand angle handle ,,,to be able to reach it from seat,,,so I can angle blade.

I got to admit though,,it looks awful small in front of the 8n.
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Old 12-24-2011, 07:02 PM   post #2 of 46
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Hi Flash5153, should be no problem mounting a blade Ford actually made a front blade for the N series tractors, I have a home built one but don't have any pictures there should be some on the forum that do though. Here's a link to the front blade I in stalled on my Earthmaster last year and it works good.
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Old 12-25-2011, 04:17 AM   post #3 of 46
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Here is a couple of photos of my 641 with an ARPS snowplow on it. Maybe it will give you some ideas. This systems frame is secured under the rear axle and the front brackets that are secured to the front axle are long and help guide the frame and keep it from moving sideways when pushing snow when the blade is angled.

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Old 12-29-2011, 09:32 PM   post #4 of 46
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I got started on this today. I should have it done by tomorrow night.

Running the cable is going to be next. Since the lift arms are out way beyond the PTO and rear end. I need to make a pivot point/pulley ,for cable , that is matching,,so it will clear all that.

This is not heavy duty,for snow only,, but I have much more bracing to do.

I will be able to angle the blade from the drivers seat.

Trying to put bracing off of the front bumper without drilling holes in bumper is going to be tough. But I think I have it figured out.
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Old 12-29-2011, 11:17 PM   post #5 of 46
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I have plans to do a build but I am going to use a electric wench on the front to lift, and leave the back blade on.. I need the bumper, Or I will have to make a bracket,,,
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Old 12-30-2011, 07:51 PM   post #6 of 46
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I spent the major part of the day working on this. And I'm still not done.

It's more difficult figuring the best way for the cables than I thought.And then getting it done. I really think I would have been better off using a electric winch,,but too late for that.

I have over $100 into hardware (cables,pulleys,binders) and a few pieces of steel I needed. Not counting,steel I had,,,, and ,,,wow,,I have allot of time into it. Cutting ,welding,drilling

I forgot what I paid for the snow blade I modified. lol Might have been better off just buying one made for it.

It does raise up and down nice and I can tilt the blade from drivers seat. I just hope it works proper,,,,and no unseen flaws.
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Great Job I would love to see a pic of it..
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i spent the major part of the day working on this. And i'm still not done.

It's more difficult figuring the best way for the cables than i thought.and then getting it done. I really think i would have been better off using a electric winch,,but too late for that.

I have over $100 into hardware (cables,pulleys,binders) and a few pieces of steel i needed. Not counting,steel i had,,,, and ,,,wow,,i have allot of time into it. Cutting ,welding,drilling

i forgot what i paid for the snow blade i modified. Lol might have been better off just buying one made for it.

It does raise up and down nice and i can tilt the blade from drivers seat. I just hope it works proper,,,,and no unseen flaws.
dude, if it works well.... Make a package and sell the pulley and bracket kit.. I'l buy one...
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Old 12-31-2011, 01:57 AM   post #9 of 46
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I already said this once,,but I think I will be done by tomorrow night.. lol

I will post lots of pictures no matter if it is a great thing or something else.
And believe me, I will put it to the test.

I have LITTLE concern about the function of the lift and angling blade, that is all great. And have good support for pushing straight back,,,,but this is a small stance frame.Pushing on a angle??? Hmmmm??

Its skinny frame plow,,,so from side to side there is a issue. I have it supported since my pics above and can push with all I have,and my body weight on the plow(sideways) and see the front wheels flex . Seems to be enough but who knows??
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dude, if it works well.... Make a package and sell the pulley and bracket kit.. I'l buy one...
LOL. I"ll keep this in mind,,but lets make sure the prototype works first.

I'm not sure I could put everything I done into words and make sense to anyone. But pictures say allot.lol
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Old 12-31-2011, 04:29 AM   post #11 of 46
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here's a photo of my 4000 last year. This was just a temp hook up until I got the correct piece for it. Maybe it will help on how to raise the plow. I used the drawbar and a couple of angles and a pulley. The cable runs to a piece of angle secure to the 3pt lower arms with a couple of J bolts. Maybe it will give you some ideas.
I also had another snowplow,which I'm going to sell, that has a frame/cable system. It has a meyers 6' blade on it. It has a roller bar in the rear off the drawbar to aid with lifting.
I can post some photos for all who might need some ideas. IF I can figure out how to get the photos on my camera and into my new computer.
One thing I don't see on your snowplow is a way to stop the snow from moving the blade to one side. The way it looks now is ok to push snow straight but not on an angle. Maybe I'm missing something. Is there some kind of bracket or brace?

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Old 12-31-2011, 06:35 AM   post #12 of 46
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My one concern is how the lighter weight GT blade will hold up being pushed by the N. The 8Ns did not have a ton of HP, but its still a solid full size tractor.

I had a Dearborn blade on my 8N when I got it. the frame was bolted solid to the axle tubes, and went foward and hung from the center axle pivit. All load was sent to the rear axle tubes, and the front just held it up. This was a big solid blade, like a pickup plow, only a tick narrower. Just plowing snow banks and stuff it took some solid wallops. And that was with a 2x4" channel steel frame. So test lightly at first to see how it goes.
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Old 12-31-2011, 11:25 AM   post #13 of 46
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here's a photo of my 4000 last year. This was just a temp hook up until I got the correct piece for it. Maybe it will help on how to raise the plow. I used the drawbar and a couple of angles and a pulley. The cable runs to a piece of angle secure to the 3pt lower arms with a couple of J bolts. Maybe it will give you some ideas.
I also had another snowplow,which I'm going to sell, that has a frame/cable system. It has a meyers 6' blade on it. It has a roller bar in the rear off the drawbar to aid with lifting.
I can post some photos for all who might need some ideas. IF I can figure out how to get the photos on my camera and into my new computer.
One thing I don't see on your snowplow is a way to stop the snow from moving the blade to one side. The way it looks now is ok to push snow straight but not on an angle. Maybe I'm missing something. Is there some kind of bracket or brace?

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I already have the blade mounted and cables now. They do look alike in a way. (read my last post) lol I do have braces for the side to side,,,since the pictures I posted.
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My one concern is how the lighter weight GT blade will hold up being pushed by the N. The 8Ns did not have a ton of HP, but its still a solid full size tractor.

I had a Dearborn blade on my 8N when I got it. the frame was bolted solid to the axle tubes, and went foward and hung from the center axle pivit. All load was sent to the rear axle tubes, and the front just held it up. This was a big solid blade, like a pickup plow, only a tick narrower. Just plowing snow banks and stuff it took some solid wallops. And that was with a 2x4" channel steel frame. So test lightly at first to see how it goes.
I agree with all of that. I really don't know if it will hold up. But I don't plan on getting too crazy with it.

I am widening this blade too,,a little on each side. And with it being supported by frame in the center only. It might be too much for it.

I guess if it breaks or bends ,,I can fix it as a non angling blade with allot of support. Can't do that if I want it angle.
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Old 12-31-2011, 02:17 PM   post #15 of 46
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Just curious - is there any reason you didn't buy a cheap plow blade off craigslist and adapt it?
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