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Old 03-01-2011, 12:03 AM   post #1 of 13
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Default JD 400 pto idler pulley #

Hey ya'll,

I picked up a 1975 JD 400 the other day. It needs a new pto idler pulley. The machine came with the Service Manual included ... I've browsed through it and can't find the part number. I also searched the 'net and can't seem to find any information.

Help please.....

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Old 03-01-2011, 05:28 AM   post #2 of 13
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AM35538 SHAFT


here is the page that I got the info from.

http://jdpc.deere.com/jdpc/servlet/c...ageServlet_Alt


is there something wrong with the shaft or just the bearings? If you need the shaft let me know before you buy a new one.
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Old 03-01-2011, 07:04 AM   post #3 of 13
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Default Re: JD 400 pto idler pulley #

WOW!!!....that was quick, thank you.

I was on that site you had a link to, however, I had trouble navigating it and could not find my mower information.

I'm not sure yet what exactly it needs. I do know that when I reach through the grill to the idler pulley, it wobbles freely up/down and back/forth with just my fingers and the previous owner complained of popping belts off.

Hopefully, by this weekend, I'll have time to disassemble and inspect it further.

Thanks for your help, and I will contact you with what I found.
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Old 03-01-2011, 07:13 AM   post #4 of 13
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Keep an eye on Ebay as these tend to come up on a fairly regular basis. Yes, the JD Parts.com web site is a bit of a bear to rummage through. Patience is key.
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Old 03-01-2011, 12:04 PM   post #5 of 13
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I would venture to bet that unless the bearings have cut into the shaft from being seized up, you could get by with just the bearings. The bearing part number is M63810 and list for 7.25 on Keepingitgreen.com

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Old 03-02-2011, 10:47 PM   post #6 of 13
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Thanks for mentioning the site KeepingitGreen. I wasn't aware of it....their prices look reasonable.

I'm going to be ordering all new belts, blades, etc... along with the needed idler pulley parts (after this weekend, when I dig into it).

Ya'll may help save me from some further research, as I haven't been a Deere owner that long....allow me to ask this....

Question -

Where do you spend your hard earned money when restoring and fixing these old John Deere's?

Is there a forum member/forum sponsor/online dealer/website ya'll prefer, use, or can recommend??

The reason I ask is because I would rather spend my money with someone who appreciates and deserves it (locally, if possibe). Secondly, after I'm done with the 400, I have a 170 that needs some attention and I'll need some more parts and information.

Thanks again -
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Old 03-03-2011, 01:02 AM   post #7 of 13
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Default Re: JD 400 pto idler pulley #

just to be clear, there is no "idler pulley" (although everyone knows what you meant)

there are idlers and there are pulleys-

and idler runs against the back side of a belt, a pully has a groove for the V side...




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Old 03-03-2011, 07:18 AM   post #8 of 13
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As far as 400 parts goes:

1. For consumables (oil, filters, belts) I have used keeping it green. I try to get a big order so I only pay shipping once. Your local JD Dealer may actually stock this stuff but watch out for pricing. One local dealer wanted to charge me twice as much for a deck belt than it was on Keeping it green.

2. For repair parts, its wherever I can find them for a 400. I haven't had to get too many, knock on wood, but Ebay usually has a fair selection because guys are always parting out 400's. There are a couple of JD Tractor "junk yards" out there but I haven't tried them yet. Others have with success. Someone on this forum passed me these two sites:

http://www.jdlawntractor.com

http://www.tractorsalesandparts.com

I do not know if any of them are good or bad. I am getting ready to try them my self.

If you start getting rare attachments(loader, tiller) for the 400, then you will probably have to start fabbing or adapting some parts should things fail. I am working on a 20 FEL for my 400 and its looking like I will have to create a coupling to get the hydraulic pump to work but that's the way it goes sometimes.

As for other JD models, I am not sure but if it is considered obsolete by the dealers then ebay or watching Craigslist are typical ways to score stuff. I would not blow off the dealer though as sometimes they have stuff on their shelves that never sold. You just have to cast a wide net.

Sorry for the long response. Hope it helps.
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Old 03-03-2011, 07:33 AM   post #9 of 13
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Default Re: JD 400 pto idler pulley #

These folks seem to have a real good handle on finding obsolete Deere parts.

http://www.rnjohnsoninc.com/

(On edit)

I just checked my parts CD and the right number for the idler pulley is AM36543. On jdparts.deere.com that number shows up as "Idler, welded w/bearing". It's a little spendy though, $27.97.

There is no replaceable bearing shown anywhere near the idler.

Robert, I think you transposed a couple numbers. The correct part number used to be AM35338 which has subbed to the current number.

Part AM35538, the one you gave shows up as a PTO shaft w/bearing and it's REALLY spendy at $357.00.

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Old 03-03-2011, 07:50 AM   post #10 of 13
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Default Re: JD 400 pto idler pulley #

Max, if there are any parts that you need off of the 400 let me know because I have 2 parts machines sitting at my house right now.....kinda wound up with them in "horse trading" deals. One is complete with the blown motor, the other is just the frame and everything underneath....NO sheet metal or hood.
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Old 03-06-2011, 10:35 AM   post #11 of 13
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Default Re: JD 400 pto idler pulley #

Got a chance to look at the 400 today. The entire lip on the rear of pto idler is shot. Apparently, I need a new idler.

Did this just happen over time, or is there something out of adjustment and/or something else needing replaced/looked at while I'm doing this??
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Robert,

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Old 03-06-2011, 10:58 AM   post #13 of 13
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Alan,

You are correct with the part number information - thanks.

John Deere Flat Idler Pulley - AM36543 ....and just for the record - notice it's called a "flat idler pulley"

I about had a heart attack when I looked up AM35538 and saw $360!!!...lol




edited for spelling error

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