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Old 05-02-2005, 08:47 PM   post #1 of 74
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I have a newbie question about fluid filled tires. Doesn't the washer fluid rust the rims from the inside out? I'd be curious to hear from anyone who has had fluid filled rims for an extended period of time.

I would think antifreeze, other than the cost, would be less prone to rusting.

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Old 05-02-2005, 08:53 PM   post #2 of 74
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Yep, eventually, washer fluid will rust out a wheel from the inside out. It may take 20-years but it will eventually happen. A lot of guys put tubes in and fill the tubes with fluid but the fluid filled tires will cause condensation between the tube and rim and the rim will still rust out. Antifreeze will kill your animals if it should leak out.
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Old 05-02-2005, 09:04 PM   post #3 of 74
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I figure washer fluid to be a good alternative to Calcium Chloride.
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Old 05-02-2005, 09:14 PM   post #4 of 74
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Yep, eventually, washer fluid will rust out a wheel from the inside out. It may take 20-years but it will eventually happen. A lot of guys put tubes in and fill the tubes with fluid but the fluid filled tires will cause condensation between the tube and rim and the rim will still rust out. Antifreeze will kill your animals if it should leak out.
Hey USN,

You paint the bleakest picture - poor guy never had a chance

Honestly loading (filling tires) is the most cost effective way of adding weight.
Its done all the time with excellent results. Some folks use CaCl in tubes in their machines ( myself) and others for years without problems. If I wasnt going to use CaCl or if I started over I would look for a product called "Rim Guard below
http://www.ballaststar.com/rimguard_spec.php

Window washer fluid doesnt provide the weight properties (specific gravity) of CaCl or Rimguard and antifreeze is a toxic waste (to man and animal) of time, material and expense...

Get the Rimguard and you dont have to be scared straight ever again by people likes USN_ED

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Old 05-02-2005, 10:14 PM   post #5 of 74
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Where do they sell this Rimguard?? I did a 80 mile search for a dealer from the largest town 20 miles from here and received no hits.
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Old 05-02-2005, 10:30 PM   post #6 of 74
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As usual I'll be one the other side of the discussion!!

If you want to add weight to the rear of your Tractor Permanent or Temporary the best method is :

Wheel weight!
Reason being it does not change it's iniertia, does not corrode, cause undue stress on axel or bearings and can be removed at will !!

All other methods pale in comparison!!
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Old 05-02-2005, 10:32 PM   post #7 of 74
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Wheel weight!
Reason being it does not change it's iniertia, does not corrode, cause undue stress on axel or bearings and can be removed at will !!
I think I read some where that filled tires put the least amount of stress on the axles and put the weight closest to the ground.
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Are there any engineers out there that can prove or disprove this ???
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Old 05-02-2005, 10:42 PM   post #9 of 74
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Argee, RimGuard is sold through a network of dealers. Probably the "blue" dealer you're familiar with is one. I loaded the rear tires of my 2210 last year and am really happy with the results. That said, the smaller tires of my sub-CUT can only hold ~ 120 lbs per tire. Even still, that makes for an amazing difference compared to the stock 2210. However, I still would have like a couple of hundred pounds more. RimGuard is non-corrosive, non-toxic, and it's density nears that of calcium chloride (about 12#/gal). Some posters will prefer wheel weights, and though they have valid points, I chose to go with the RimGuard. I would also like to point out, that, as tractors are more competively manufactured, and as worldwide pressures proliferate, the trend is to lighten (cheapen) them; and as such, a tractor loses it's very best friend: heft and weight.

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Old 05-02-2005, 10:51 PM   post #10 of 74
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Take your pick !
Be My guest It's not difficult to rationalize!
It's a solid, non rolling (sloshing) forward or backward!
It is mounted on the rim , cannot corroed the interior part of the tire mount!
It applies the weight directly to the ground trough the rim and tire, thereby not transferring it through the axel or bearings!
It can be removed a lot quicker then you can drain a filled tire which makes repair a lot eaiser for tire repair or replacement!!

What's to prove???

Yes I have a Degree in Engineering but not in tractor Weight!
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Old 05-02-2005, 10:57 PM   post #11 of 74
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Rim Guard is Squeezed Beet Juice and the very best fluid for those that want to fill their tires NO QUESTION ABOUT IT , but should you need to repair one the charge will be astronomical!!
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Old 05-02-2005, 10:58 PM   post #12 of 74
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Archdean,

All of your arguments are valid and worth consideration. What I do not like about wheel weights are the added width the tractor requires to add the necessary weight.

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Old 05-02-2005, 11:00 PM   post #13 of 74
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Incidently in this area most that want their tires filled use liquid Methane (highly flamable) mixed with water!! Is it heavy you bet , is it for me, NO!!
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Archdean,

All of your arguments are valid and worth consideration. What I do not like about wheel weights are the added width the tractor requires to add the necessary weight.

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If you recall I said it was the best method not the only method , for you it makes sense and Cheers to you also!! I still think you have a very nice property!!
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As usual I'll be one the other side of the discussion!!

If you want to add weight to the rear of your Tractor Permanent or Temporary the best method is :

Wheel weight!
Reason being it does not change it's iniertia, does not corrode, cause undue stress on axel or bearings and can be removed at will !!

All other methods pale in comparison!!
Your kidding right ? wheel weight is a direct force on the axels therefore causing stress on both axel and bearings.....you forgot to mention the most expensive option
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