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Old 11-09-2010, 11:59 PM   post #1 of 37
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My father was a Gravely guy for many years and did a fair amount of vegetable gardening. He never owned the cultivator tool holder like the one pictured above. He did have the rotary plow and powered cultivator though. Is the tool holder actually useful in a significant way for vegetable gardening or did it die due to the rotary cultivator's emergence?
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Old 11-10-2010, 03:57 AM   post #2 of 37
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I use mine with the hiller attachments to hill my potatoes as they grow. It works great. A lot of times I put a furrower in the center of the left and right hillers to kick dirt from the middle to them. I also use the furrower alone to make rows for planting. It saves me a lot of work in the potatoes.
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I have one but have never used it. I've also heard several people echo what Charles said about the potatoes. I've just never taken the opportunity to set it up and try it.
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Better than a push plow for scratching weeds.
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I use mine with the hiller attachments to hill my potatoes as they grow. It works great. A lot of times I put a furrower in the center of the left and right hillers to kick dirt from the middle to them. I also use the furrower alone to make rows for planting. It saves me a lot of work in the potatoes.
In addition to the liability lawyers nixing all of the neat attachments for the classical Gravely [like the circular saw and the chain saw], I think that the rise of "jobs that 'Americans' won't do" [or at least the mentality of "jobs that 'Americans' won't do"] had a huge impact which helped lead to the demise of the classical Gravely tractor.

How many "Americans" nowadays even bother to grow their own vegetables anymore?

Although, if Bernanke keeps inflating the currency, the old Victory Gardens might soon reappear with a vengeance...

[PS: "Americans" is in quotes because I don't want to be called a racist.]
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My Grandad used to use one to prep rows for planting, and I believe for tilling between rows and even over very small plants. He had a big chunk of railroad rail he would pin to the top as a weight. I have the attachment but don't use it because my garden is much smaller and my rows are closer together. As a tool, it will be limited by the weight (and tractive capacity) of the Gravely. It probably won't work well at breaking sod, but will work in cultivating an already turned bed

NBS, I second what you said. In a recent two wheeler forum I said it seems like we "safety" ourselves out of a lot of good, usable equipment. I've always thought there should only be one warning decal on a machine: "Stupidity = Pain". Frills and fancy features are nice, but add cost, complexity, and maintenance headaches. There are times you want a cushy Cadillac, and times you want a Mack Truck.
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Old 11-10-2010, 02:12 PM   post #7 of 37
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I have just picked up a tool holder with cultivators and I can't wait to use it! I will be using it to "cultivate" between corn rows. Cultivate is an old farming term that could better be described as WEEDING! Farmers of yesteryear would look at that thing and know EXACTLY what to do with it! They might have used horses to pull a two row cultivator through a corn field 100 years ago. Their cultivators would have looked more like the "sweeps" that were made for the gravely tool holder but the idea is the same: Scrape the weeds up between the rows CONSTANTLY so they can't ever really get going compete with the crops. The rotary cultivator essentially does the same thing but I'm really excited to try this older method! I'll post some video of it on youtube when I get there!

And yes, I have a HUGE garden and I try to grow as much of the food my little family consumes as possible! The corn is actually for my 6 chickens! It's a dry field corn!

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it seems like we "safety" ourselves out of a lot of good, usable equipment.
There is some truth to that. Put another way, there are some people that should not own a power tool or a lawn mower.

Personally, I have come to appreciate the older well made tools and equipment. One day I am going to put a circular saw on the 5665 and make a video. It should be impressive.

Keep you pets and children inside.

Back to the tool holder. I think that for what I am going to do, the rotary cultivator is all I need. I don't know anything about potatoes. I barely know anything about growing things like green beans, radishes, lettuce and tomatoes either but it can't be that hard. I feel I am biting off a big enough chunk already.

Richard - horticulturist in training.

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I have just picked up a tool holder with cultivators and I can't wait to use it! I will be using it to "cultivate" between corn rows. Cultivate is an old farming term that could better be described as WEEDING! Farmers of yesteryear would look at that thing and know EXACTLY what to do with it! They might have used horses to pull a two row cultivator through a corn field 100 years ago. Their cultivators would have looked more like the "sweeps" that were made for the gravely tool holder but the idea is the same: Scrape the weeds up between the rows CONSTANTLY so they can't ever really get going compete with the crops. The rotary cultivator essentially does the same thing but I'm really excited to try this older method! I'll post some video of it on youtube when I get there!

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The old style rotary cultivator works great for me for controling weeds. However, the toolbar cultivator set up properly might do well also. A rotary type stirs up the ground more which causes more weeds to germinate. I would like to try the old sweep and hoes setup like you see in the Gravely manuals. I think it would do the job of weeding with less soil disturbance than a rotary cultivator. I have yet to find a sweep/hoes setup for sale.
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I have one and have tried it a couple times but find it to be useless for cultivating due to the lack of front weight and thus depth. I think it could be a useful attachment for potatoes with a couple of hillers and a furrower, but I do not yet have those accessories for it (hard to find). Because it is adjustable, it is more forgiving from a row width standpoint than the rotary cultivator is going to be (> 24") with less risk of really damaging your roots. To me, I'd almost rather have a pull-type attachment than a push type for this function. Used grass clippings this year to keep weeds down.
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Stupidity = Pain
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"If your going to be stupid, you'd better be tough"
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I have one and have tried it a couple times but find it to be useless for cultivating due to the lack of front weight and thus depth. I think it could be a useful attachment for potatoes with a couple of hillers and a furrower, but I do not yet have those accessories for it (hard to find). Because it is adjustable, it is more forgiving from a row width standpoint than the rotary cultivator is going to be (> 24") with less risk of really damaging your roots. To me, I'd almost rather have a pull-type attachment than a push type for this function. Used grass clippings this year to keep weeds down.
I forgot to mention the piece of railroad iron attached to the top of mine. It solves the weight problem. Charles
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Are you also able to use your furrower for potato harvest or does it not run deep enough?
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Old 11-10-2010, 10:33 PM   post #14 of 37
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A note as to the advantages of cultivating beyond weed control; tilled ground loses less moisture to evaporation. It seem counter intuitive, one might think the tilled soil would lose more moisture but tilling break the capillary movement of moisture to the surface. Even a light tilling will conserve moisture during dry weather.
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I always figured that broken up ground would have a tendency to hold more water than hard packed ground, Around here the ground can be almost as hard as a rock. A rock doesn't hold much water at all. Then again, what do I know? Not a lot.

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