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Old 07-24-2010, 12:23 PM   post #1 of 20
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I am restoring my 60's or 70's (not sure wich one I can't find any info on it) and tuning the engine a bit and putting different pulleys on it. I chose to do it on this lawn mower because it is small, low to the ground, and very light. If anyone finds any info on this (ANY INFO AT ALL) let me know it would be greatly appreciated. So, heres where I'm at:
Here is the foot rests:

Heres some views of the hood:



Here is the frame and engne. (the carb is taken off to be cleaned)




Here is the stock 11 inch transmission pulley:


All of the body parts are getting sand blasted and primed today. I will update this evening of tomorrow morning.
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Old 07-24-2010, 12:51 PM   post #2 of 20
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I picked up one just like yours a few months ago for either a parts machine or a possible resto. According to the engine code, it is a 1980 and if I remember right it was made by gilson. Look on the engine shroud for the type, date, code numbers. the first 2 digits of the code are the year the engine was made and assuming this is the original engine it will give you a close guess to the year of the tractor. Just because the engine codes to a 1980 doesn't mean that's the tractor year, as it could be a 1981, just took a bit from the time the engine was made to when the tractor was made. hope this helps, and look forward to seeing your project progress.
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Old 07-24-2010, 01:00 PM   post #3 of 20
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Thanks for helping me. I think your right about it being a gilson because the model # is
GIL 33857 A
The serial # is 8305E1 761
So i am assuming its an 83? And if it is i'll change the title.
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I m not sure how they date coded. My SN is 1070E1 323 so it cant be coded in that. Again I would check the code no. on the engine shroud to get a close date, it shouldn't be more than a year off if its the original engine.
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I have one almost identcal to yours!..I think it was built around 1978 or so,the model number is 33887A ....has an 11 HP vertical Briggs and the same tranny as yours!..its red and white too..rund and mows nice,has a 38" rear discharge deck,and is in very good shape for its age...
I might sell it because I have too many tractors,but in a way I shouldn't,because its one of only 3 I have with decks out of 8 tractors!..it's nice to have a "back up" mower in case one decides to take a "vacation"..
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I have one almost identcal to yours!..I think it was built around 1978 or so,the model number is 33887A ....has an 11 HP vertical Briggs and the same tranny as yours!..its red and white too..rund and mows nice,has a 38" rear discharge deck,and is in very good shape for its age...
I might sell it because I have too many tractors,but in a way I shouldn't,because its one of only 3 I have with decks out of 8 tractors!..it's nice to have a "back up" mower in case one decides to take a "vacation"..
Sounds like yer talkin about me. Out of 12, 6 have decks and only 2 are running right now. My Monkey Wards does not have the deck, which is a bummer, not too many old rear chutes left around here. just don't go gettin no crazy ideas about ME having too many tractors and needing to sell some...I'll get around to fixin them....someday...
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Old 07-25-2010, 01:17 AM   post #7 of 20
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In southern CA,you dont have to hurry fixing up old things..here if you dont use them every week or restore them and hide them in a dry garage or shed,they rust away before you get to do anything with them...--this applies even more to cars & trucks too..

That is a Gilson built tractor,the "GIL" prefix and grille are dead giveaways its a Gilson ..for a riding mower sized rig with 8" rear tires,these were pretty beefy..
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Old 07-25-2010, 01:25 AM   post #8 of 20
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What do you mean by "beefy"? And i couldn't get them sand blasted because i'm very sick . And I have a question-Isn't prettty much every lawnmower has a 8 inch transmission pulley? Ive see this alot and I don't know why mine has a 11 inch pulley. Thanks
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"Beefy" as in rugged-er than most other "riding mowers" are..that tranny is not bullet proof but its one of the better aluminum peerless ones..mine has a huge pulley too,and it really creeps in first gear,they probably designed it that way so it would have more pulling power or push snow better ,instead of going faster..

Sorry to hear your sick..get well,the tractor can wait!..
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Old 07-25-2010, 10:17 PM   post #10 of 20
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Yeah. This tractor was built for torque. The only thing is, this thing is so light, i it cant get any traction! I think im getting better in the sickness department. I hope to start making progress again in about 2 or 3 days. Thanks
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Old 07-29-2010, 05:01 PM   post #11 of 20
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So im not sick anymore so i started to get back to work. Here are some priming jobs of carb parts:



Here is what she looks like right now:

I took off the carb and did a ton of work with it. (it was COVERED with a thick layer of grease) This is what it came out to. I'm thrilled with it

NOTE: I put the carb back on to run it a bit. That is also why it has a battery in it.
Here are the engine #s

They read:
Model:252707
Type:013-02
Code:78090511

So all in all I'm thrilled with it. So is my dad. he wants to get in on it and he wants me to drive it around at this years fiddlers frolics in hallettsville. (where i live) He also wants me to make a sign for it to advertise his cooking team "The Good Stuff"
Let me know what you guys think of it!
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Old 07-29-2010, 06:14 PM   post #12 of 20
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Old 07-30-2010, 12:21 AM   post #13 of 20
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Looks good!

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Old 07-30-2010, 12:52 PM   post #14 of 20
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Thanks. Today I will get started painting some engine parts. I will have more updates later today. Thanks everyone!
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Old 07-31-2010, 01:08 AM   post #15 of 20
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Alright so today I started taking more parts off the engine and preps them for painting.So here are some updates
Here are the painted air cleaner parts

Here is A picture of the throttle assembley I removed

And here is the start of an exhausting day. Sanding priming and painting the shroud. Here is the storyline-This is a picture of some light hand sanding i did to make sure I got all the info I needed from the shroud

Here is a sanded shroud ready for primer

Primed shroud back and front


And here is the finish paint. I chose glossy black.

I didn't waste any expensive paint by painting the inside of the shroud-I kept it primed

That shroud was NOT easy to get sanded. So many curves and little lifts. I crashed when I finished. Tomorrow I'll be sanding priming and painting more parts. I'll be sure to keep you guys updated. Check back tomorrow. Thanks everyone.
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