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Old 04-19-2012, 11:12 PM   post #16 of 30
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GHouser,

I did get the following information on the belts for my tiller from sbpd601 who appears to have the same tiller as mine..........

"The belt sizes are 3/8 X 46 for the main drive and
1/2 X 46 for the tine drive. Toro/LB new numbers are 705361 and 702603. Dayco numbers are
L346 and L446
I got mine on EBAY"

I had written these numbers down on the interior of my belt/pulley assembly housing in my previous machine. It appears as though they correspond from my earlier manufactured tiller and my "new" tiller. The sizes should be correct. We will see!

I hope this helps.

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Doug B. and GHouser, welcome to the forum!

I can't help either one of you with the belts, but those are a couple of fine looking machines. They both look good.

Thanks for the pics and again, welcome.
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Old 05-17-2012, 01:04 AM   post #18 of 30
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For more diagrams and parts on these tillers, look at New Holland RTT5, originally Ford. This was the same tiller built by Gilson for Ford.
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Old 05-17-2012, 05:01 AM   post #19 of 30
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Old 02-20-2013, 04:54 PM   post #20 of 30
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Toro Contact Information for Gilson Brothers Tillers is:

1-888-384-9939 and navigate through to a CSR by pressing these numbers when prompted: 1 > 1 > 6 > 5

Have the model number off your equipments frame handy. Spaces in the numbers are critical to the CSR finding the right info.

Just talked to them myself and they're sending me (free of charge) the Owners Manual with Parts Diagram for my GIS 2130 A38 - Western Auto Wizard 5HP Rear-Tine Tiller.

Since they're freely sending me the info, if it's OK with TPTB of this forum, I'll scan it to PDF and post it here.

Have a great day, folks.
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Old 03-04-2013, 04:50 PM   post #21 of 30
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Received the manual today but they sent the wrong one. Received a manual for GIS 2120 A38.
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Old 04-13-2013, 09:33 PM   post #22 of 30
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i got one of these yesterday with the agreement that if i fixed it and got it running, i could use it to till up my garden.

serial # 51114 45432

it appears that the pick up tube is not sucking any gas. it runs fine when spraying fuel into the carb but will not stay running. i've already had the tank/carb off and cleaned and inspected things, did not see anything obvious. the fuel tank looked pretty dirty/or/rusty though, rinsed that out a few times. i couldn't figure out how the pick up tubes are held in the carb. i tried screwing one out and it didn't look like it was coming out, but did spin.

i took apart the fuel pump thing and inspected the diaphragm, it looked solid and was still flexible.

if anyone has any info on the carb, please post it up.
The pickup tube is a press in. There were metal and plastic tubes, early models being metal and the later the plastic crap.

There is a check ball in the tube to stop gas from running back to the tank. If it is not working, then it will not suck gas. Blow on the long tube and see if it is clear. The give it a little suck to see if the ball drops and stops the air from flowing back.

There is a spring and cupped washer that goes behind the diaphragm. If the spring is too weak or crushed down, then the diaphragm will not work correctly.

The pickup tub can be replaced, by the way. Briggs still stocks some of the most common.

The diaphragm should be replaced every year. As it works it stretches slightly and then doesn't pump as well
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Hey guys! I just picked up one of these tillers but this is a ford RTT5 and it is brand new never been ran through the dirt. It was started though and it runs great! I had a couple of questions about it and was hoping one of you might be able to answer? It didn't come with any manual and I don't know what the nut in the back of it down by the tine shield does? I turned it but it doesn't seem to do anything. And the other thing is that the tines turn with the wheels. It doesn't seem to me like it would till dirt like that? And I didn't want to put it in the dirt just yet due to the fact that it hasn't been and I'm not sure what I am going to do with it yet. Anyway could someone give some insight to the questions that I have?
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Hey guys! I just picked up one of these tillers but this is a ford RTT5 and it is brand new never been ran through the dirt. It was started though and it runs great! I had a couple of questions about it and was hoping one of you might be able to answer? It didn't come with any manual and I don't know what the nut in the back of it down by the tine shield does? I turned it but it doesn't seem to do anything. And the other thing is that the tines turn with the wheels. It doesn't seem to me like it would till dirt like that? And I didn't want to put it in the dirt just yet due to the fact that it hasn't been and I'm not sure what I am going to do with it yet. Anyway could someone give some insight to the questions that I have?
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Couldn't have said it better myself! Welcome to the forum.

Please, post a few pics of your new Ford.

Congrats and enjoy the tiller and the forum.
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I would also like to thank you for the info you have displayed. Mine is on the way.


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Toro Contact Information for Gilson Brothers Tillers is:

1-888-384-9939 and navigate through to a CSR by pressing these numbers when prompted: 1 > 1 > 6 > 5

Have the model number off your equipments frame handy. Spaces in the numbers are critical to the CSR finding the right info.

Just talked to them myself and they're sending me (free of charge) the Owners Manual with Parts Diagram for my GIS 2130 A38 - Western Auto Wizard 5HP Rear-Tine Tiller.

Since they're freely sending me the info, if it's OK with TPTB of this forum, I'll scan it to PDF and post it here.

Have a great day, folks.
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Old 04-17-2013, 01:45 PM   post #28 of 30
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I would also like to thank you for the info you have displayed. Mine is on the way.
You're welcome. Great looking Tiller you have acquired!

As an aside, I've not forgotten my pledge to post the manual. Finally recieved the correct one but my computer room is in the midst of updating. I'll have to get my printer hooked up and figure out how to create a multi-page pdf from tiff images.
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Old 07-07-2014, 09:41 PM   post #29 of 30
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Theres some good looking Gilson's tillers in this thread. The red Gilson and the blue Ford look brand new. Mine was branded as a Co-Op model and never looked as good as those .
It would be interesting to know how many OPE providers rebranded Gilson Bro's tillers.....
I've responded to quite a few emails lately seeking info on the belts and idler pulleys so I thought I'd update this thread with the info.
Likes has been posted the belt sizes are 3/8" x 46" and 1/2" x 46". I'll add where I got them and the part#'s the supplier uses, same for the idler pulleys.
1ea fractional drive belt, 3/8" x 46", part# 68-1024
1ea fractional tiller drive belt, 1/2" x 46" part# 68-1055
1ea Idler Pulley for Gilson, part# Rotary 435
Supplier is www.tulsaenginewarehouse.com
Last I ordered these parts was back in 2012, a quick check shows they still have them (July 2014).

I've found that by keeping the actuating lever properly adjusted the tiller worked the best. Proper adjustment is to try and center (as as close as you can) the actuating lever in the neutral position. Adjustment bolt(s) is under the handle.

I usually get 3 or 4 seasons out of the pulleys. The idler pulley that adjusts the tension on the tine drive wears most on mine.
I've only swapped the belts out twice in nearly 20 yrs.

These old tillers ain't no Horse or Pony but I can't argue against nearly 20 yrs of service on a unit I traded for used.

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Old 07-08-2014, 06:13 PM   post #30 of 30
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I can't help much with any info on these tillers, but it's interesting reading about them and looking at them.

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Hey guys! I just picked up one of these tillers but this is a ford RTT5 and it is brand new never been ran through the dirt. It was started though and it runs great! I had a couple of questions about it and was hoping one of you might be able to answer? It didn't come with any manual and I don't know what the nut in the back of it down by the tine shield does? I turned it but it doesn't seem to do anything. And the other thing is that the tines turn with the wheels. It doesn't seem to me like it would till dirt like that? And I didn't want to put it in the dirt just yet due to the fact that it hasn't been and I'm not sure what I am going to do with it yet. Anyway could someone give some insight to the questions that I have?
Where did you find a tiller that old that had never been used? That's almost impossible to find anything that old that has never been used.

As far as the wheels turning with the tines, unless I'm misunderstanding what you mean, that's how all rear tines work.
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