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Old 06-09-2010, 09:17 AM   post #1 of 17
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Default How many hours on an oil change?

The other thread on the 50 hour service interval got me thinking. The manual says engine oil "every 200 hours or yearly".

I am surprised how few hours I put on the 2305 since I use it year round for snow removal. I did the 50 hour service last spring and now have about 140 hours on it. I am probably going to change the engine oil and @ 150 hours. I can't see doing it at 90 hours as that is way sooner than the other parameter John Deere reccomends.

BTW, I am considering switching to synthetic oil since it isn't much more expensive than JD oil.

Thoughts gentlemen?
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Once per year regardless of hours would be my absolute minimum. You need to get out the moisture which inevitably enters the crank case.
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I've been changing the oil at 100 hours and the filter at 200 hours. Still using the Dino type oils since I was told its the diesel soot contamination in the oil that needs to be removed by periodic oil changes.
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I've changed the oil/filter in all my Deere's at 50 hrs and continue to do so on my 2210. I know it's way below the recommendation, but I feel more comfortable . . . and the cost, negligible.
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Once per year regardless of hours would be my absolute minimum. You need to get out the moisture which inevitably enters the crank case.
I understand the condensation thing, but mine sits in a heated garage and normally runs at least an hour every time it is used.
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I've changed the oil/filter in all my Deere's at 50 hrs and continue to do so on my 2210. I know it's way below the recommendation, but I feel more comfortable . . . and the cost, negligible.
Preach it brother JDFan! You can't service them enough ... or often enough!!

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I do my oil and filter every spring for the mowing season and only oil in the fall for the plowing season. I have 170 hours since purchased in Sept 2005. Did the 50 hour service in July of 2006. Low useage. Probably overkill on the maintenance but it's a cheap investment every year.
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I've changed the oil/filter in all my Deere's at 50 hrs and continue to do so on my 2210. I know it's way below the recommendation, but I feel more comfortable . . . and the cost, negligible.

I am switching to synthetic oil (Amsoil)this time around.
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I've changed the oil/filter in all my Deere's at 50 hrs and continue to do so on my 2210. I know it's way below the recommendation, but I feel more comfortable . . . and the cost, negligible.
I plan on keeping mine a long long time slkpk
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its not green but every 50 with castrol 30w and a dab of lucas
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I change the oil and filter in my 4110 every 50 hrs. I'm sure its overkill but its not much money and the oil looks dirty so I change it.
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I understand the condensation thing, but mine sits in a heated garage and normally runs at least an hour every time it is used.

Water is one of the most destructive contaminants in most all lubricants. It attacks additives, induces base oil oxidation and interferes with oil film production. Low levels of water contamination are normal in engine oils. High levels of water ingression merit attention and are rarely correctable by performing an oil change. The following are some additional notes on water contamination:
*Long idling in wintertime causes water condensation in crankcase, which leads to loss of base number and corrosive attack on surfaces, oxidation of the oil, etc.
*Emulsified water can mop up dead additives, soot, oxidation products and sludge. When mobilized by flowing oil, these globular pools of sludge can knock out filters and restrict oil flow to bearings, pistons and the valve deck.
*Water sharply increases the corrosive potential of common acids found in motor oil.
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Water is one of the most destructive contaminants in most all lubricants. It attacks additives, induces base oil oxidation and interferes with oil film production. Low levels of water contamination are normal in engine oils. High levels of water ingression merit attention and are rarely correctable by performing an oil change. The following are some additional notes on water contamination:
*Long idling in wintertime causes water condensation in crankcase, which leads to loss of base number and corrosive attack on surfaces, oxidation of the oil, etc.
*Emulsified water can mop up dead additives, soot, oxidation products and sludge. When mobilized by flowing oil, these globular pools of sludge can knock out filters and restrict oil flow to bearings, pistons and the valve deck.
*Water sharply increases the corrosive potential of common acids found in motor oil.


But doesn't having a heated garage for winter use and running an hour each use minimize condensation accumulation? FWIW, I generally won't idle the motor under 1500 rpm unless engaging the PTO.
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Once a year for me, regarless of hours. I also go ahead and change all filters (inner, outer air & fuel), except transmission filter. Been doing it this way since '05 and it has been working out well.
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But doesn't having a heated garage for winter use and running an hour each use minimize condensation accumulation? FWIW, I generally won't idle the motor under 1500 rpm unless engaging the PTO.
Nice equipment in your signature, btw.

Because of such an investment, it seems a bit odd to me that you are wanting to be stingy with the oil.

I posted a thread a while ago about bad oil looking good. In short, I had changed hydrostatic fluid which looked perfect, contained no apparent moisture, and in an unscientific flow test, flowed exactly the same as new.

However when I fired the tractor up, everything about the transmission was better. No more moaning, groaning, higher top speed, faster action on the lift, etc.
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