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Lmercer · 03-07-2010, 10:58 PM

My hydraulic valve mounts to a plate that is mounted to the steering column. I noticed when I move my lift lever, the outer sleeve on the steering column moves up and down, quite a bit, before it engages the valve, Is this normal or is there a way to make it more solid?

Thanks
Lyle

magicalj · 03-07-2010, 11:57 PM

That's definitely not normal. That tube is just pressed into the aluminum housing at the bottom. You need to check it and see why it isn't tight. I have heard of people replacing those tubes with one they had made at a exhaust place.

AJ

Lmercer · 03-08-2010, 12:11 AM

I should have specified that I had the wheel off already. Is that why? Does the wheel and nut hold it down? I noticed it while I was disassembling to take the column out to rebuild.

Redyserve · 03-08-2010, 06:01 AM

No it should be solid. Mine was the same way, I took it apart and used locktight when I put it back togather.

Lmercer · 03-12-2010, 08:03 PM

Looking for some more advice. I got my steering column apart and wonder if anybody has had any experience with ordering the replacement parts thru Cub. I'm heading to my Dad's tomorrow and he only lives a few miles from an IH dealer, where I have gotten parts before. In the below picture, they list #10 as the bearing and ball assembly. Does that include the ball retainer, which they list as #16? That is really what I need as the balls are loose in the one from the bottom of the column, and they seem to be ok. Any advise would be appreciated.

Lyle

Lmercer · 03-17-2010, 08:18 PM

Steering Column Update:

Instead of trying to expand my loose column, or 'burring' it up and locktiting it in, I felt like fabbing one up.

I was planning on upgrading the bushing at the top to a bearing, and an old 3/4" front wheel bearing was what was the closest thing. In the original column, it was too loose, but the bushing fit snug.

I looked at some 1 1/4" EMT metal conduit, which the bearing fit perfectly snug into, and almost was the perfect size out side.

It took quite a bit of polishing to get it smaller. I put the pipe in the freezer and heated the steering box a little with a torch and had a buddy help me and using a couple of boards and a BFH, we drove it home.

It took a while, but it is not coming out. I liked the way it came out:

03-07-2010, 11:57 PM	#2
magicalj Senior MTF Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Indiana Posts: 323 MTF Member # 2362	Re: 1650 Steering Column That's definitely not normal. That tube is just pressed into the aluminum housing at the bottom. You need to check it and see why it isn't tight. I have heard of people replacing those tubes with one they had made at a exhaust place. AJ __________________ 1980 482 1981 582 1983 682 1980 782 1983 982

03-08-2010, 12:11 AM	#3
Lmercer MTF Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: IL Posts: 33 MTF Member # 38811	Re: 1650 Steering Column I should have specified that I had the wheel off already. Is that why? Does the wheel and nut hold it down? I noticed it while I was disassembling to take the column out to rebuild. __________________ Proud owner of a Cub Cadet 1650 and Sears Craftsman GT Not mine, but looks like fun!!

03-08-2010, 06:01 AM	#4
Redyserve Senior MTF Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: PA Posts: 231 MTF Member # 33541	Re: 1650 Steering Column No it should be solid. Mine was the same way, I took it apart and used locktight when I put it back togather. __________________ ]~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Rugg Builtmore Wheelhorse 702 with ground plow and, snowblower that needs TLC Wheelhorse Lawn Ranger with snow blade & deck Cub Cadet 1450 with deck and blade Bolens 600 with deck, Simplicity Wonderboy with deck Jacobson Javilen 26 '89 Craftsman II 12.5hp with bagger (dad got this new in '89)

03-12-2010, 08:03 PM	#5
Lmercer MTF Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: IL Posts: 33 MTF Member # 38811	Re: 1650 Steering Column Looking for some more advice. I got my steering column apart and wonder if anybody has had any experience with ordering the replacement parts thru Cub. I'm heading to my Dad's tomorrow and he only lives a few miles from an IH dealer, where I have gotten parts before. In the below picture, they list #10 as the bearing and ball assembly. Does that include the ball retainer, which they list as #16? That is really what I need as the balls are loose in the one from the bottom of the column, and they seem to be ok. Any advise would be appreciated. Lyle Attached Thumbnails __________________ Proud owner of a Cub Cadet 1650 and Sears Craftsman GT Not mine, but looks like fun!!

03-17-2010, 08:18 PM	#6
Lmercer MTF Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: IL Posts: 33 MTF Member # 38811	Re: 1650 Steering Column Steering Column Update: Instead of trying to expand my loose column, or 'burring' it up and locktiting it in, I felt like fabbing one up. I was planning on upgrading the bushing at the top to a bearing, and an old 3/4" front wheel bearing was what was the closest thing. In the original column, it was too loose, but the bushing fit snug. I looked at some 1 1/4" EMT metal conduit, which the bearing fit perfectly snug into, and almost was the perfect size out side. It took quite a bit of polishing to get it smaller. I put the pipe in the freezer and heated the steering box a little with a torch and had a buddy help me and using a couple of boards and a BFH, we drove it home. It took a while, but it is not coming out. I liked the way it came out: Attached Thumbnails __________________ Proud owner of a Cub Cadet 1650 and Sears Craftsman GT Not mine, but looks like fun!!

03-07-2010, 10:58 PM	#1
Lmercer MTF Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: IL Posts: 33 MTF Member # 38811	1650 Steering Column My hydraulic valve mounts to a plate that is mounted to the steering column. I noticed when I move my lift lever, the outer sleeve on the steering column moves up and down, quite a bit, before it engages the valve, Is this normal or is there a way to make it more solid? Thanks Lyle __________________ Proud owner of a Cub Cadet 1650 and Sears Craftsman GT Not mine, but looks like fun!!

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