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Old 01-06-2010, 09:00 PM   post #1 of 62
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Default How to secure rider/prevent theft

I only have a two car garage with no shed or anything like that. I am about to have another car at the house so I was considering storing my rider (a Simplicity Broadmoor) on the back porch. It would be out of the elements but I'm concerned about theft. Is there any reasonable way to secure a rider w/o being able to chain it to something permanent like a flagpole? Sorry, I'm new to riders and therefore not familiar w/ the products that are out there. My mower needs a key to start but I assume that every key is exactly the same and therefore provides no real security. Thanks.
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Old 01-06-2010, 09:04 PM   post #2 of 62
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You should do something like run a chain through a wheel and around something like the axle or the other wheel.

The thing is heavy enough that people won't just casually walk up and carry it off, so make it so it won't roll.

Another option if your porch is wood would be to put an eyebolt down through a backing plate and then you'd have a makeshift lock point.

Your right about the key, don't know if they are all exactly the same, but I bet there's only a few, and besides, I could probably hotwire your tractor in less than a minute. Its like with boats, the key is just a deterrant from petty thievery.

Seriously a chain through the wheel is just like a boot on a car. It makes it very inconvenient to do anything with it.
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Old 01-06-2010, 09:17 PM   post #3 of 62
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just make it so the machine has to be lifted to be stolen.
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Old 01-06-2010, 09:21 PM   post #4 of 62
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a piece of flat stock, weld another piece perpendiculer(make a "T"). on the other end drill a hole to put a padlock in. then run thru 1 wheel then thru the other, then lock. wont roll away 4 sure. also. how bad is it down there that GT's are gettin jacked?!
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Old 01-06-2010, 09:26 PM   post #5 of 62
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I think if someone is ballsy enough to venture on the back porch for the tractor, a little extra lock cutting isn't going to bother them.
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Old 01-06-2010, 10:04 PM   post #6 of 62
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Old 01-06-2010, 10:07 PM   post #7 of 62
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This is a constant concern of folks at campgrounds with their quads. There are various cable lock systems available that will slow thieves down but thats all it does. Gives you time to respond. Some cables have alarms on them that make a heck of a racket if the quad is moved or the cable cut.

Chains, cables, big oversize handcuffs and all sorts of devices help to make the rolling stock more difficult to remove. Don't thing they won't just pick it up and pack it off as four or five motivated thieves can pack of a $10,000.00 quad really quick.

When in a camp ground with my quad I put it on the trailer, run a solid hardened steel bar thru the trailer wheels side to side and lock the bar with a padlock that is set back in a pocket that prevents getting to it. The quad is locked down by a really heavy hardened chain that has two 4" lengths of schedule 80 pipe welded on the ends. The chain goes thru the quad over the engine and transmission and down thru the trailer deck where the bar that locks the wheels slides through them. The tongue has a hitch lock that encases the front of the hitch plus a padlock that locks the hitch itself. The whole mess is then chained, again with hardened chain with a pocketed padlock, to a convenient tree, vehicle or other fixed object.

Sound like overkill? Maybe, but three years ago my quad stayed home and two smaller quads with just a cable lock on them disappeared just two camps away. They were the easiest to get as they had the least security.

You can't stop a determined thief but you can make it difficult enough for them at your place that they will go somewhere else. Here at home I have motion detecting lights that come on when something roams into range. They all have a horn that comes on with the lights that blasts for a few seconds. Kind of bothersome at times but the aggravation is way less than having stuff stolen.

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Old 01-06-2010, 10:45 PM   post #8 of 62
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This is a constant concern of folks at campgrounds with their quads. There are various cable lock systems available that will slow thieves down but thats all it does. Gives you time to respond. Some cables have alarms on them that make a heck of a racket if the quad is moved or the cable cut.

Chains, cables, big oversize handcuffs and all sorts of devices help to make the rolling stock more difficult to remove. Don't thing they won't just pick it up and pack it off as four or five motivated thieves can pack of a $10,000.00 quad really quick.

When in a camp ground with my quad I put it on the trailer, run a solid hardened steel bar thru the trailer wheels side to side and lock the bar with a padlock that is set back in a pocket that prevents getting to it. The quad is locked down by a really heavy hardened chain that has two 4" lengths of schedule 80 pipe welded on the ends. The chain goes thru the quad over the engine and transmission and down thru the trailer deck where the bar that locks the wheels slides through them. The tongue has a hitch lock that encases the front of the hitch plus a padlock that locks the hitch itself. The whole mess is then chained, again with hardened chain with a pocketed padlock, to a convenient tree, vehicle or other fixed object.

Sound like overkill? Maybe, but three years ago my quad stayed home and two smaller quads with just a cable lock on them disappeared just two camps away. They were the easiest to get as they had the least security.

You can't stop a determined thief but you can make it difficult enough for them at your place that they will go somewhere else. Here at home I have motion detecting lights that come on when something roams into range. They all have a horn that comes on with the lights that blasts for a few seconds. Kind of bothersome at times but the aggravation is way less than having stuff stolen.

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when we ride away from home and camp, i run grade 100 1/2" chain thruogh all our chassis's and then loop it through the chain pockets on my roll back bed, then put the chains and tailboard of the bed into the ground. we ride badlands alot and dont know of any getting stolen from the camp but i wont be first
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Old 01-06-2010, 10:50 PM   post #9 of 62
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How about something like a Denver boot? At least they wouldn't be able to roll it out after cutting a cable or chain.

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Old 01-06-2010, 10:53 PM   post #10 of 62
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if you can bolt cutter my 100 1/2" chain i'd be REALLY impressed
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Old 01-06-2010, 11:02 PM   post #11 of 62
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if you can bolt cutter my 100 1/2" chain i'd be REALLY impressed
A cordless angle grinder with a cutoff bade is way more effective than a bolt cutter.
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a bit louder tho. lol. so is a torch.
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Old 01-06-2010, 11:16 PM   post #13 of 62
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I live in iowa and 1/2 the time i don't even lock the door.But the german shepherd and mastiff helps.
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Old 01-06-2010, 11:16 PM   post #14 of 62
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chain a mountain lion to it!
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Old 01-06-2010, 11:24 PM   post #15 of 62
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For me it is simple, the car stay out side and the tractor stay in the garage.
It is less difficult to steal a tractor versus a car.
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