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Old 01-07-2010, 10:17 PM   post #16 of 27
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I've used the cardboard method and masking tape/paper. I prefer to use the tape as I'm then sure there will be no runs, but the cardboard also gives a nice result. I personally wouldn't use the grease method, but that's because I'm a clutz and would wind up either getting it on the material to be painted or wiping it off of the stuff to be covered. If I was doing an actual restoration, I'd pull the tires off of the rim, media blast them and powdercoat (if the right color was available) or paint.
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Old 01-07-2010, 10:35 PM   post #17 of 27
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I guess I'm a hack when it comes to painting wheels --if I want spiffier looking rims,I just slather some Vaseline on the tire sidewalls,jack up the tractor,spin the wheel,and squirt the rims while it's spinning..then wipe off the Vaseline after the paint dries..you can get pretty good at doing it this way after some practice..

I lack patience for masking things off,and sanding things for hours..that's why none of my vehicles or tractors are "nice looking",I prefer to keep the original patina and surface rust dont bother me,I paint more to preserve ot,than for looks..
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Old 01-07-2010, 10:36 PM   post #18 of 27
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Honestly, I think there is less chance of runs or paint bridging with the cardboard. With the masking tape, you either let the paint dry and chance the paint peeling where it bridged, or you chance a wet removal where you may "drop" the tape to the rim. The cardboard will not be touching the very edge if you make the hole in it fit the very inside of the rim,

As for powder-coating... I have tired that, and you still take a high chance of chipping or scratching the rim while mounting the tire. I powder coated the wheels on a garden trailer and chipped them in a few spots while mounting the tires. Sadly, there is no way to powder coat the rims with the tires on.

For a perfect finish, painting with the tires installed is the only way to go.

I also agree with any grease, or liquid mask... way too much to go wrong. Also, most liquid masks are designed to take the place of a plastic car cover, not masking paper. The stuff was made to cover cars after they have been masked with normal tape & paper. (FYI, I am an ASE certified auto painter / insurance appraiser)
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Old 01-07-2010, 10:55 PM   post #19 of 27
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If you try painting rims with the tires off, you really need to let them setup for a long time..months possibly depending on paint and reducer type, hardener, baking etc.
Some of that tractor paint NEVER gets hard..just a sort of rubbery hardness that scrapes off pretty easy when mounting them. That tire is going to bind somewhere.
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Old 01-08-2010, 05:28 AM   post #20 of 27
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At this stage, you take some large cardboard and cut it in half (or two large sheets) and overlap the cardboard in the middle. Draw a circle close to the size of the inside of the rim at the center. Now you simply slip the cardboard behind the rim and paint away. The cardboard can be slipped out while the paint is still wet and the other side or another rim can be painted. With the cardboard large enough, there will be no overspray and no "misses" in the tape. If you want to do mask all the sides at once, you can use the same method. If you are painting a lot, cut the cardboard round and wrap around the "tread" with tinfoil to seal up the two sides shielded with cardboard.

This method is so fast, and you get perfect coverage behind the rim and tire bead.





Yes, this method does work very well,I've done this before with good results.
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Old 01-08-2010, 11:03 AM   post #21 of 27
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Just did this to 2 Carlisle X-trac's I bought on raw steel rims. I let air out and broke the bead with several c-clamps. Cleaned, taped, masked and shot paint. Aired them up and they looked great.

These were for front snows on my LT and I wanted the bead seating areas to be fully painted to avoid rust spread.
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Old 01-08-2010, 11:49 AM   post #22 of 27
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I like the cardboard idea . . . I'll have to give that one a try.
I'm still skeptical though how the paint gets around the edge of the rim. Masking tape is a ****-of-alot thinner than corrugated cardboard. Sometimes faster isn't always better. I might just be to fussy though.

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i've done something like the vasseline idea, except with brake fluid, its good for the tires too although vasseline is a lot cheaper...(i think?) i'll have to give that a go when i paint my front rims.
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Old 01-08-2010, 06:34 PM   post #24 of 27
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I like the cardboard idea . . . I'll have to give that one a try.
I'm still skeptical though how the paint gets around the edge of the rim. Masking tape is a ****-of-alot thinner than corrugated cardboard. Sometimes faster isn't always better. I might just be to fussy though.

The trick is that the cardboard goes in behind the tire all the way to the inside of the rim. The bead is curved outwards so the cardboard kind of holds the tire back away from the rim. Remember, the tire is flat at this point and the bead is broken. Trust me, I am as fussy as it comes when it comes down to painting... this just plain works better than masking.
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Old 01-08-2010, 08:21 PM   post #25 of 27
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Some innovative ideas here.

Last time I painted the rims, I taped and papered. Next time, I'm going to try the vasiline - sounds a lot easier. The cardboard looks doable, too.

Anyway, good info!

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Old 01-08-2010, 08:31 PM   post #26 of 27
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You know all of this is much easier if you are willing to pull the valve stem core and break the bead.
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I like the cardboard idea . . . I'll have to give that one a try.
I'm still skeptical though how the paint gets around the edge of the rim. Masking tape is a ****-of-alot thinner than corrugated cardboard. Sometimes faster isn't always better. I might just be to fussy though.

cereal box cardboard works well
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