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Old 12-14-2009, 03:39 PM   #1
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Question Liquid-filled Tires?

I have heard that you can put antifreeze into your tires to weight them down and get traction. A couple questions:

1) Is it worth it...does it actually work?
2) How do you get the anti-freeze in the tire?
3) Are they aloud in local tractor-pulls? (I know there are different rules for different towns...but I'm wondering in general)

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Old 12-14-2009, 03:51 PM   #2
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1: weighted tires do work (rim guard 11/lbs per gallon which depending on tire size could add 100's of pounds of fluid ballast)

2: there's a fitting that screws onto the tire stem and allows air to come out in exchange for fluid.

3: no clue, would have to check the rule books re: amount of ballast allowed.

The fluid isn't necessarily anti-freeze, and being that anti-freeze is toxic should probably rule that out.

The fluid used to be calcium chloride, which unfortunately tends to corrode wheels.

Rimguard is popular http://rimguard.biz/

also some have used windshield squirter fluid, which is also toxic (methanol) but not really something someone would be likely to drink, antifreeze is sweet tasting and as such some animals/children will drink it.

you could also probably use Pink RV antifreeze which is non-toxic.

But I believe rimguard is about the heaviest by volume solution on the market besides calcium chloride.
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1) for as long as there have been pneumatic tractor tires it has worked.
2) they sell a tool. or you can pull the valve stem core (the center part of the stem) and use a hose & funnel to pour it in which will take a while but is free.
3) don't know.

google: tire ballast for more info.
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Old 12-14-2009, 04:23 PM   #4
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I have heard that you can put antifreeze into your tires to weight them down and get traction. A couple questions:

1) Is it worth it...does it actually work?


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Old 12-14-2009, 04:26 PM   #5
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A lot of guys here put RV anti-freeze or Windshield washer solvent in for weight. If you have tubeless tires you can break the bead on the valve stem side and pour it in. The tires on my Wheel Horse B-100 took 5 gallons and it added 45 lbs per tire. There are a few threads on this site about it if you do a search.
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Old 12-14-2009, 04:36 PM   #6
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Id love to have loaded tires but I run tubes in them...is it possible to fill the tubes? Seams like Id need a pump of some kind...
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Id love to have loaded tires but I run tubes in them...is it possible to fill the tubes? Seams like Id need a pump of some kind...
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Tubed tires were liquid filled long before tubeless tires were developed.

If you can find small plastic tubing that will go in the valve stem with the schrader valve removed and adapt about a 6 inch long piece to a little larger like 1/4" or 3/8" hose you can siphon it in from the gallon jug while you wax the tractor, change oil or play ball with the kids.

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Tubed tires were liquid filled long before tubeless tires were developed.

If you can find small plastic tubing that will go in the valve stem with the schrader valve removed and adapt about a 6 inch long piece to a little larger like 1/4" or 3/8" hose you can siphon it in from the gallon jug while you wax the tractor, change oil or play ball with the kids.

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Wow! Thanks Maybar, I learn something new everyday. I guess I have yet another project. lol
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Old 12-14-2009, 05:22 PM   #9
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If you use methanol,just remember that it is flammable.Using tubes will help slow the rust problems associated with liquid fill.
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Old 12-14-2009, 05:31 PM   #10
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My tire size are 20x10x8, 66 pound (75% fill)

I include The chart for weight (HydroFlation Table AGTires PDF files)
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Old 12-14-2009, 08:05 PM   #11
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To determine the value of fluid filled tires, fill one tire only and try driving up a slick incline.
I was amazed when i went to get a leak fixed on two tires, one for a John Deere A, and another for a Farmall cub, that stinking Cub wheel with its calcium chloride weighed about the same as the empty wheel off the much larger john deere.
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Old 12-14-2009, 11:07 PM   #12
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I have 26x12x12's and filled them with none freezing ww fluid many, many years ago. Each weighs 180#'s.
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Old 12-15-2009, 12:11 AM   #13
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Does anyone who uses windshield washer fluid ever find any signs of rubber damage due to the alcohol content in contact with the rubber?

I've often thought about RV antifreeze, since RV's often use rubber couplers, its most likely safe for rubber as well as metal?

I've had used machines with automotive antifreeze but it's a mess when the tire gets a leak and pretty toxic if it spills.

Forget Calcium Cloride, it eats up the rims too bad, and I prefer not to run tubes. Rimguard is too costly, as is Slime, which the local shops recommend here. I can also imagine a tire change after filling two back wheels with slime. Its got to be a real mess. Besides, if that stuff dries when it contacts air, what happens to it over time?
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You can find enviro friendly RV plumbing antifreeze.I know people have run it without issues but it will cause rims to rust after awhile.
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What is RV antifreeze made of?

Those with larger tractors here are steered towards Slime tire sealant for weight but it's not cheap.
I know a few guys that use regular car a/f but they still have rusty rims after a while. A few do use used a/f from the local gas station but most use pure ethylene glycol a/f straight. I've dismounted a few of these wheels/tires and it's a mess. I can't imagine Slime in a tire.
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