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bigdodge · 04-11-2012, 06:50 PM

Is anybody running a 3-point backhoe on there deere?

Is there anything to be carefull for?

kennyd · 04-12-2012, 06:45 AM

I think it's a bad idea...to much risk in breaking the tranny case from the stress.

JDFANATIC · 04-12-2012, 07:29 AM

Totally agree with Kenny.

bigdodge · 04-12-2012, 09:24 PM

This mounts by the 3 point arms plus it has two 1/2x4 support arms that come down to the drawl bar. I thank they take a lot of the stress.

kennyd · 04-13-2012, 05:59 AM

Yes...but there is no subframe that goes under the tractor towards the front to distribute the load, its all on the rear of the tractor.

Take a look in JDParts to see how they mount the hoe's.

TooManyGT · 04-13-2012, 10:46 AM

If you add a subframe to help support the 3pt arm mounting area and tie it in with the loader frme. I'm not sure how the top link for your 3pt attaches to the rear axle but that area might need some re-enforcing also.
After looking at a lot of 3pt mounted 'hoe's and seeing some damaged tractors from using them without a sub-frame I determined that it seems that most of the problems came from putting too large of a backhoe on for the tractor.
When selecting a 3pt BH you have to size one that is smaller than what would normally be used with a sub-frame mount.

Kubota is usually very conservative with their equipment and offered a factory 3pt BH for the B32/3300 that wouldn't void the warrenty, if you looked at the specs. it was very detuned from the sub-frame mounted BH. 1.5ft less digging depth and a lot less dipper force.

I think you can use a 3pt BH without damaging the tractor, just brace it and/or size it a little smaller, I like the 3pt because you don't have to r&r the 3pt components. The only reason I'm going with a subframe mount is the 3pt puts the BH too far out the back for me.

Brad

bigdodge · 04-14-2012, 12:04 AM

It does hang out there a little ways. I thank it will be ok provided nobody gets to gungho with it.

pistol8 · 04-16-2012, 10:40 PM

I've got a Woods bh750-3 on my JD650 Its heavy but I don't push it either. You just have to be gentle. I'm really easy on stuff (Love my tractors)I think its better to have it hooked by subframe but I got mine for $400.00 so I'm just looking for a bigger tractor!

04-11-2012, 06:50 PM	#1
bigdodge Senior MTF Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: indiana Posts: 325 MTF Member # 49067	jd 4410 3-point backhoe ? Is anybody running a 3-point backhoe on there deere? Is there anything to be carefull for?

04-12-2012, 06:45 AM	#2
kennyd Senior MTF Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Westminster, MD Posts: 250 MTF Member # 50540	Re: jd 4410 3-point backhoe ? I think it's a bad idea...to much risk in breaking the tranny case from the stress. __________________ John Deere 4110HST FEL, MMM, FEL Forks (homemade),I-Match, Ballast Box, #380 plow (modified to fit), Markham LD-48 Grapple, Trac-Vac 854 and lots of other STUFF. John Deere 4x2 Turf Gator View some of my projects/adventures in my Picasa Album Simple JDParts Tutorial HERE Also check out www.greentractortalk.com

04-12-2012, 09:24 PM	#4
bigdodge Senior MTF Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: indiana Posts: 325 MTF Member # 49067	Re: jd 4410 3-point backhoe ? This mounts by the 3 point arms plus it has two 1/2x4 support arms that come down to the drawl bar. I thank they take a lot of the stress.

04-13-2012, 05:59 AM	#5
kennyd Senior MTF Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Westminster, MD Posts: 250 MTF Member # 50540	Re: jd 4410 3-point backhoe ? Yes...but there is no subframe that goes under the tractor towards the front to distribute the load, its all on the rear of the tractor. Take a look in JDParts to see how they mount the hoe's. __________________ John Deere 4110HST FEL, MMM, FEL Forks (homemade),I-Match, Ballast Box, #380 plow (modified to fit), Markham LD-48 Grapple, Trac-Vac 854 and lots of other STUFF. John Deere 4x2 Turf Gator View some of my projects/adventures in my Picasa Album Simple JDParts Tutorial HERE Also check out www.greentractortalk.com

04-13-2012, 10:46 AM	#6
TooManyGT Senior MTF Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: VA Posts: 959 MTF Member # 38585	Re: jd 4410 3-point backhoe ? If you add a subframe to help support the 3pt arm mounting area and tie it in with the loader frme. I'm not sure how the top link for your 3pt attaches to the rear axle but that area might need some re-enforcing also. After looking at a lot of 3pt mounted 'hoe's and seeing some damaged tractors from using them without a sub-frame I determined that it seems that most of the problems came from putting too large of a backhoe on for the tractor. When selecting a 3pt BH you have to size one that is smaller than what would normally be used with a sub-frame mount. Kubota is usually very conservative with their equipment and offered a factory 3pt BH for the B32/3300 that wouldn't void the warrenty, if you looked at the specs. it was very detuned from the sub-frame mounted BH. 1.5ft less digging depth and a lot less dipper force. I think you can use a 3pt BH without damaging the tractor, just brace it and/or size it a little smaller, I like the 3pt because you don't have to r&r the 3pt components. The only reason I'm going with a subframe mount is the 3pt puts the BH too far out the back for me. Brad __________________ Kubota '10 B2620 w/LA364, 60" BB, 60" Rake, 72" Scraper blade, Homemade bucket QA, Homemade Hyd. grapple bucket Wheel Horse '89 520H 48" deck, sleeve hitch Wheel Horse '93 520H 60" deck, 48" blade Bolens 1220, 42" deck, 42" FB, 36" Sno-caster, 33" tiller, 4Kw gen. Bolens wheel weights Simplicity '64 Landlord, Mid-grader blade, 46" front blade, sickle bar, Hyd-lift, deck. Case 444, 48" deck, 54" front blade, 41" tiller, 3pt And many many more!

04-14-2012, 12:04 AM	#7
bigdodge Senior MTF Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: indiana Posts: 325 MTF Member # 49067	Re: jd 4410 3-point backhoe ? It does hang out there a little ways. I thank it will be ok provided nobody gets to gungho with it.

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04-16-2012, 10:40 PM	#8
pistol8 Senior MTF Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 165 MTF Member # 5396 Images: 3	Re: jd 4410 3-point backhoe ? I've got a Woods bh750-3 on my JD650 Its heavy but I don't push it either. You just have to be gentle. I'm really easy on stuff (Love my tractors)I think its better to have it hooked by subframe but I got mine for $400.00 so I'm just looking for a bigger tractor! __________________ No Good Deed Goes Unpunished !

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