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drbailey
03-31-2005, 10:45 PM
Its the time of year , several people are wanting me to Till there garden spots , like I did last year.
Last year I did the job with my Bolens , I sold the Bolens to a man in NY, on E-Bay.
My question , What type , what size , What anything !!? do I need for my 8 N. I would like to Till there gardens, I enjoyed that.
Thanks in advance , your advise is appriciated

Durwood
04-01-2005, 12:21 AM
Its the time of year , several people are wanting me to Till there garden spots , like I did last year.
Last year I did the job with my Bolens , I sold the Bolens to a man in NY, on E-Bay.
My question , What type , what size , What anything !!? do I need for my 8 N. I would like to Till there gardens, I enjoyed that.
Thanks in advance , your advise is appriciated

How many pto hp does your tractor have? I know i would want a tiller at least wide enough to cover both wheels. I have looked at the king Kutters at TSC and they look heavy duty to me.

Durwood

john-in-ga
04-01-2005, 07:17 AM
drbailey

There are conflicting opinions as to where a 8n is suitable for a PTO driven rotor tiller. Most say it is not geared low enough for this type tiller and recommend a turning plow. My suggestion is to see if you can borrow a tiller to try before making your purchase.

This is a WAG on my part but I don’t think that your 8n, if it will rotor tiller, will only handle but about a 4 footer.

Two 14 inch turning plows is what your 8n was designed for and will make quick work of “breaking up” small garden plots. The draw back to this is, as opposed to a PTO driven rotor tiller, the plot will need a going over with smoothing harrow after being “broke up”.

Steve (Magnolia, TX)
04-01-2005, 09:40 AM
Hey, DrB...

I don't do any custom garden work, but I DO work up my own garden with my 8N. I don't have and have never tried a rototiller... my 6' 3-point-hitch disk works GREAT for me (I don't have and have never used a turning plow on my spot, either). Using JUST a disk it'll take more passes to get a good deep seedbed, but (depending on your soil type, of course) you SHOULD be able to accomplish this with a disk on your 8N...


HTH
Steve

drbailey
04-01-2005, 10:24 AM
thanks guys , I`m reading and takeing it all in , I`ll ask Ken about the horse power or look on Smiths tractor site.
Also I`ll check back in after work this evening.

Steve (Magnolia, TX)
04-01-2005, 10:55 AM
Per the 8N Operators Manual...

The MAXIMUM belt (PTO) horsepower is 27.32
Rated belt (PTO) horsepower is 23.22

Steve

Ken N Tx
04-01-2005, 04:17 PM
No rototiller for the N.!!! The ground speed is too high..Like Steve says, disk is the best for the garden..

Ingersoll444
04-01-2005, 04:21 PM
Never tryed it, but I always heard the same as Ken says. Just to fast.

drbailey
04-01-2005, 09:19 PM
Ok Men , I got the facts , and I understand. It would have been fun tilling with the N , I will do it a differant way and still have fun , :fing02: Thanks to all , I appriciate your help and advice .

Argee
04-01-2005, 10:01 PM
All I ever use anymore is my 6' disk...as a matter of fact I've put my 2-14 Dearborn plow up for sale. A disk will give you about as fine a seedbed as you will ever see.

Durwood
04-01-2005, 11:47 PM
All I ever use anymore is my 6' disk...as a matter of fact I've put my 2-14 Dearborn plow up for sale. A disk will give you about as fine a seedbed as you will ever see.

It is hard for me to believe that a disk would work the ground deep enough for a seedbed on ground that has never been plowed. I can understand it working good on ground that has been plowed before. I wonder if a chisel plow with a disc would work good on unplowed ground? BTW, one year i put black plastic down in my garden and punched holes in it to put the plants in. The next year when i pulled the plastic up to work the ground it was unbelievable how soft the ground was. About could have used a hand rake to work it.

Durwood

drbailey
04-02-2005, 12:06 AM
Durwood , the garden spots that I need to do were tilled deep last year with my bolens and tiller. Its not to bad this year. Remember , I live in Ozark Mountain range in Arkansas . Our best crop is Rocks. LoL , I`ll post a pic

john-in-ga
04-02-2005, 06:41 AM
........... Our best crop is Rocks. LoL , I`ll post a pic
Funny thing about rock. Most folks that’s got'em will pay to git rid of'em. Most Folks that ain't got'em will pay to get'em. ------ Pity they are so heavy, else a fellow could make a fortune.:)

slipshod
04-02-2005, 07:18 AM
Funny thing about rock. Most folks that’s got'em will pay to git rid of'em. Most Folks that ain't got'em will pay to get'em. ------ Pity they are so heavy, else a fellow could make a fortune.:)
I sell rocks all the time. The farm I bought it the hills has a gravel pit and I never come down off the hill empty. The place has creek run gravel and flagstone, and I make piles at my farm close to home. The big rocks I sell with delivery and placement. The local nurseries get big money for the same service so by keeping my prices reasonable I get quite a bit of business. This year I am palletizing the flag stone and selling it that way.

slipshod
04-02-2005, 08:07 AM
Here is a picture of my tiller mounted on my tractor. It is a Befco and works really well for me.http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y96/slipshodent/John%20Deere%204600/DSC00794.jpg

Argee
04-02-2005, 08:12 AM
It is hard for me to believe that a disk would work the ground deep enough for a seedbed on ground that has never been plowed.
Durwood
It's all done by the angle of the disks. The more angle, the more radical the cut. Granted you'll have to make several passes over a few days but the results will be staggering.

Argee
04-02-2005, 08:14 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v226/Argee/My%20Tractors/59131e14.jpg

slipshod
04-02-2005, 08:24 AM
If you are reworking your beds with a tiller after the season remove all the vines! Unless you like cutting them off the tiller. Ask me how I know that.

Durwood
04-02-2005, 11:16 AM
It's all done by the angle of the disks. The more angle, the more radical the cut. Granted you'll have to make several passes over a few days but the results will be staggering.

I can see where that would make sense now Argee and thank you for clarifieing that. I learn something here everyday. :fing02:

Durwood

Durwood
04-02-2005, 11:26 AM
Durwood , the garden spots that I need to do were tilled deep last year with my bolens and tiller. Its not to bad this year. Remember , I live in Ozark Mountain range in Arkansas . Our best crop is Rocks. LoL , I`ll post a pic

You have a banner crop of rocks it seems Dr. B. :fing20: It looks like a lot of work to get a garden ready down there, but hey....better you than me. :fing02:
Seriously, good luck with it but i don't think my old back could take it anymore. I remember working for a guy hauling rocks out of a field when i was a young kid. They weren't very big ones though and i got paid by the 5 gallon bucketful.

Durwood