MF 1523 Hydro fluid??

[WilliamBos]

Hi,

We are doing some research and need some help. Our MF 1523 currently has Permatran in it, and we are looking for something full synthetic that also meets MF specs as the tractor is under warranty, but will also be good for year round use, from our nasty cold winters to our hot muggy summers.

Thanks in advance,

Will

[donsoil]

Greetings Will !
Amsoil ATH Synthetic transmission/hydraulic oil meets and exceeds the MF permatran specifications. The cold pour point of Amsoil ATH is -40 deg F. in the heat of summer Amsoil synthetic will reduce transmission operating temperatures by 20 to 50 deg. F. which allows for much longer transmission component life, and longer seal and hydraulic hose life. When you drop 20 to 50 degrees off the normal operating temperature the materials the seals and hoses are made of do not break down and turn brittle nearly as fast, which adds life and reliability.
Petroleum based transmission/ hydraulic oils begin breaking down at 175 deg. F. and for every 20 degrees you add to it you cut the life of the oil in half.
Amsoil Synthetic Transmission/ Hydraulic doesn't even begin to break down until it reaches 300 deg. F. and is not completely broken down until around 600 deg. F. It will maintain viscosity right up to the point where the metal fatigues, long after a petroleum based oil will have given it up.
If you would like more info on Amsoil ATH go to my website and click on transmission oils on the left side of the home page and scroll down to ATH, if you would like to take a look at the spec sheet click the more info tab.
Please Let me know if this helps.
Have a great day !
Don

[WilliamBos]

Thanks Don. I could not get your site to display properly, is this the stuff??


http://www.amsoil.com/storefront/ath.aspx


If it is, why the 5W30 rating? I thought that was only for engine oils??

Thanks,

Will

[donsoil]

Greetings Will !
Your question has alot to do with the viscosity index ( VI ) of oil.
Lets talk a little about viscosity before we get into viscosity index. When you think of viscosity think of the difference between honey and water, high viscosity is like honey and low viscosity is like water.
Viscosity is the load bearing capacity of the thin film that seperates the close tolerance parts inside your engine, tranny, or whatever you happen to be lubricating.
Petroleum based oils tend to be thick in cold temperatures, as the oil heats up to normal operating temps it thins to its specified viscosity, as temps rise higher and higher above normal the oil loses viscosity and gets thinner and thinner like water, when that happens you lose the film strength or load bearing capacity of the oil and you begin to have metal to metal contact, and shortly thereafter catastrophic failure.
When you overheat an engine one of two things will happen, it will sieze a piston in the bore or it will spin a bearing, or both, this happens because of the loss of viscosity, through thermal breakdown of the oil.
Now lets talk about viscosity index.
Viscosity index is a number showing the amount of change that happens in an oils viscosity over a broad temperature range. The less change that occurs the higher the oils viscosity index number will be. Oil with higher VI numbers provide better low temperature pumpability ( starting ability ), and better high temperature protection and increased fuel efficiency.
High quality petroleum based oils tend to have a viscosity index as high as 95
and require the use of an additive called viscosity index improvers ( VII ) which allow the oil to perform better at both cold and hot temperature extremes. VII are commonly used to make multi grade oils.
Amsoil synthetic ATH has a viscosity index of 171. Many of the chemically engineered synthetics have a naturally high Viscosity index which gives them the natural ability to perform as a multigrade without needing viscosity index improvers.
This is a huge benefit for you because Amsoil ATH flows to -40 F greatly reducing cold startup wear, and when exposed to extreme heat it maintains viscosity long after petroleum based oil will have given it up to thermal runaway.
Please let me know if you would like to use Amsoil, as I can save you 25% with a wholesale accout.
Thank you !
Have a great day !
Don

[donsoil]

Greetings Will !
I must apologize, Amsoil ATH has a viscosity index of 160, not 171 as I stated in the previous post.
Viscosity index is published on an oil's specification sheet, if you would like to compare oils, simply compare specification sheets.
All of Amsoil's specification sheets for each product are found on my website by clicking on the more info tab located beneath each product.
Thank you!
Have a great day !
Don

[WilliamBos]

Please let me know if you would like to use Amsoil, as I can save you 25% with a wholesale account.
Thank you !
Have a great day !
Don

Hi Don,

Yes, I think I will switch and become an Amsoil customer. How do I go about getting the discount you mentioned??

Thanks,