Homemade trencher vs 2210

[horseman1]

This homemade trencher worked fine on the Craftsman GT, but I had a bit of trouble when I used it on the 2210 :eek: No big loss, it only took a little while to make anyway out of some scrap parts. I'll have to more careful using that 3pt to sleeve hitch adapter :). The cool part was all my welds held up fine, it was the steel tine that bent.

Before:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v185/kurt_co/welding/trenchera.jpg

After:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v185/kurt_co/welding/bentwhole.jpg

[jodyand]

Kurt weld you a gusset on the back and it wont bend anymore.

[horseman1]

Good idea Jody! I think this project is headed for the scrap heap though. It was originally designed as a quick sleeve hitch trench maker for an invisible dog fence. Worked OK and did the job, but it wasnt the best design, since it lacks some adjustment features that would have been nice. For anyone going to make something like this, a gusset and a thicker tine would be the right choice.

[Bruceman]

I wouldn't bother throwing it away. You could just as easy mail that piece of junk, to that guy named Bruce.
I made one of those out of a ripper tooth, from a box blade. It worked pretty good ( only able to go down about 6" per pass ) 2 passes would bury it, but I didn't put a deflector on it; consequently, the dirt wanted to fall back in the ditch.
Isn't just amazing how a little more torque and weight will find the weak link?

Bruce L~

[horseman1]

It sure is Bruce, I didnt think the tine would bend, I thought the welds would break where the 1/8 inch square tube was welded on to the tine. I guess thats why I'm not a mechanical engineer. I was kind of surprised how it failed. I guess I'm thinking that maybe someone here could explain why it failed the way it did and I could learn a little bit in the process.

[chipmaker]

The leverage applied to the support tine and the pressure exerted against the point when it was in the dirt lined up, with the angle the point wa presented on and the weak point that went was where that one hole is at. I bet if you could recrate the depth and angle it wa at when it gave up the ghost, that bend is going to be directly in line with the area of the point that was doing the work. If you cut off that flat iron tine, and weld on another piece of say 1/2 x 2" flatstock so its 1/2 inch dimension is the leading edge, or even use another piece of tube with a piece of flat stock welded behind it to give rit more spine, you would be hard pressed to bend it with most normal uses. Probably even get by without a gusset.

I made one out of 1 1/2 solid square stock that will go down whatever the travel of my three point is and uses a 4" or 6 inch replaceable spade point. I can't pull it all at one shot, but a few passes will quickly get it down to the maximum depth.

I also made one that was a lot lighter but just as strong. I have a receiver hitch welded to a 3-point hith affair I made up, which resembles an A. The ripper goes into the receiver hitch tube and secures with a pin, just like the typical receiver hitch on a pickup truck etc. The spine or vertical part of the ripper is 2" steel tube with 1/4" thick walls, with a replaceable spade point, with a 3/8 x 1 1/2" flat iron backer welded up behind the verticle tube, ecxtending past the receiver hitch by about 6 inches, so it forces that tubes top into the frame of the A on the tractors 3 point acting like a stop. If I put too much pressure against it, it will start to raise my three point lift up, since it does not have down pressure. So as long as I do not overexert it, it will work just fine and not bend no matter what I do, and still with the proper angle set on the point it will hold in the ground and make some nice trenches.

[Topdj-com]

does that really work, I need something like that for my 2548 Husky
I have a power sleeve hitch that has downforce.

like to get down 12" in a few passes

[horseman1]

Thanks chipmaker, a very good explaination as well as a good idea for the next version should I choose to make one. You were right on about it bending where the hole was :fing32: I think I will make a bigger version sometime made the way you describe.

Topdj-com,

Yes, it works as shown. It would work pretty well with the downforce added. I used it with a floating sleeve hitch and a 3pt to 2" receiver to sleeve hitch adapter (picture that). It works OK, but for use with the sleeve hitch it should have adjustment for the pitch of the blade and should go deeper than I made it. It worked great for digging the little trench for the wire. Bruce's sounds a little better if he were to weld a spade on the end to get the dirt out of the trench.

[chipmaker]

Its also good to be able to adjust trrhe angle of attack on that point as if it has too much downward angle it will try and dig deeper. To much and it wants to ride out of the earth. About the only way thata you can keep it properly orientated is with a top link or an electric actuator. As you put it down deeper and deepr that angle of attack changes so you need to adjust it, or it imparts more stress, instead of holding level or close to it.

I will see if I have a pic of my setup, of course its made to work with my three point hitch adpater unit which is pretty handy for lots of work so if you can weld IMHO they are worth making these adapters.

[Topdj-com]

what happened to the photos, I could use one of theses for my Sleeve hitch

[jodyand]

what happened to the photos, I could use one of theses for my Sleeve hitch

I still see the photos.

[Topdj-com]

none here little X where they would be

[Mark / Ohio]

I can see them OK. You don't by chance have images turned off in your forum User CP? Or maybe you need to delete you browser cookies and cache?

[Topdj-com]

nope they are X , image enabled and I just deleted all off line content

[Topdj-com]

test image

[Topdj-com]

I can see the popcorn just fine

[Topdj-com]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v185/kurt_co/welding/trenchera.jpg
thats the first link to the first image and its NG

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v185/kurt_co/welding/bentwhole.jpg

second one is a broken link too.

these are what he posted in the begining of the thread

So its not me its the post.

[Mark / Ohio]

That's weird. I clicked on the links you posted of his pictures and they showed up for me. Also see your popcorn. Let me try re-posting as attachment. (If I remember how to do it.)

[Mark / Ohio]

That's one, now the second picture... Opps, had to reduce the file size a bit.

[Topdj-com]

yours show up fine, the links above say page cannot be displayed.

You dont know this but I do TECH support from home for computers and print systems
for engineering firms arcoss the country. My only guess is that ROAD RUNNER is blocking this site

[Topdj-com]

I need one of these things, someone here needs to make me one :)
a stronger way to make one would be to slice the square stock tubing and use 1/4 plate in the stronger direction.

[Mark / Ohio]

....You dont know this but I do TECH support from home for computers and print systems
for engineering firms arcoss the country. My only guess is that ROAD RUNNER is blocking this site

Ok, I was beginning to think one of your girls had secretely installed a photo filter on your computer to keep you from looking at girlie pictures elsewhere. :D

I've heard some rumblings in other forums about not being able to get into different sites depending on ones location the last few days. Someone posted this link to this Register news article. Maybe you've already seen it.

The Register Article (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/10/06/level3_cogent/)

[MowHoward2210]

:ditto: Link. (http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/68174)

[Topdj-com]

ya I NOW can see the Links, pretty funny though I was really pissed that I could not fiquer it out. I DO NEED ONE OF THOSE TRENCHERS

[JoeJ]

:hatsoff: Well Topdj, seeins how ya ashamed to put your name and location in, how are we to know if your close enough to help out? :hide: ROF

If ya was to showed up here with the spade part, I figure it would be worth a 30 pack :bannana: :bannana:. That works out to half for me and half for you. :fing32: