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jlangton
07-15-2006, 03:33 PM
Picked up this Kubota G2160 last Tuesday, and have spent a few evenings familiarizing myself with it and getting some seat time in.

This machine has Kubota's 782cc D782 inline 3-cylinder liquid cooled diesel that makes 21 hp,and a heavy duty cast iron rear axle/hydrostat that can handle a rear rotary tiller that's available as an option. It has options of a rear PTO kit and Cat 0 3-point hitch if you want it. I chose not to get those options,I'll purchase a larger machine later for things like that,and leave this one as a dedicated mowing machine.

The electrical servo-actuated power steering is a nice addtion for a lawn/garden tractor,and makes steering this machine around obstacles very easy with little effort on the part of the operator. Steering is fluid and linear from the mini rack and pinon type steering system with none of the typical "sloppiness" of most lawn/garden tractors.

The hydrostat is driven via a shaft that is live and attached directly to the rear of the engine(actually the front). Since the engine sits in the chassis reverse of what most manufacturers use-this has the fan blowing the hot air away from the operator's are, so you stay cooler on those long, hot days.

The mowing deck/mid-PTO are driven from the front of the tractor off of the rear of the engine from a set of parallel belts that use a dual spring tensioner system and is activated by a cable tied to the PTO engagement lever. I was a bit apprehensive about this sytem, but it's simplicity makes for easy maintenance when it's needed,and appears to be more than beefy enough for this application.

The hydraulic lift system on the deck is nice,and makes use even more operator friendly-no tugging on a lever to raise/lower the deck. This is a nice option considering the heavy 10 gauge 54" deck weighs 209 lbs.

The 54" mowing deck is a 10 gauge steel deck with 3-blades and a RH discharge. A 60" deck is an option. It has heavy-duty geaseable spindles with an oil-filled gearbox and shaft drive system that has greaseable U-joints for smooth operation and should last a lifetime or close to it with proper care. The belt-drive system for the blades consists of a dual-joined V-Belt that's approx 1.25" wide for resistance to slippage under the heaviest loads. Adjustment of the deck cutting height is easy with a rotating knob that has adjustment clearly marked. Height is adjustable from 1" to 4". Removal of the deck is simple with a set of pins in the rear and a lever/lock setup and a pair of pins on the front, plus the anti-scalp wheels spin sideways to simply roll it out from under the machine when detached. The driveshaft has a quick-coupler for simple removal of the shaft. That makes access for servicing simple because at 209 lbs....it's heavy when it's not on wheels.

The hydrostat is capable of 9.3mph top speed in forward, and 3.7mph in reverse. It is actuated via the typical pivoting lever that's found on most hydrostats,and it's positioned for less fatigue during use.

The main deck is a full flat style step-through with ample room for most any operator,and the seat is a high-back spring suspension style with adjustable tension for a comfortable ride,and has a simple sliding adjustment that's actuated by a single lever on the front of the seat mount.

It has a 5.8 gallon fuel tank for longer times between filling the machine with fuel, and has a low-fuel light on the indicator panel so you'll know before you run it out of fuel.

The electrical and charging system consists of a 40 amp belt driven alternator,and a 450cca battery with an ATC type fuseblock for the circuits. It also has an electrical solenoid type key-stop on the diesel,so no levers to pull to shut down the machine.

I've got right at 5 hours on the machine so far,and after 2 hours of continuos seattime today,I'll say it's a very powerful machine that cuts grass well and is easily manuevered through the yard and around obstacles with little effort.
The engine has enough power to cut through the thickest grass with no bogging like machines with gasoline powerplants-it just keeps on chugging when the grass gets thick.
I'm amazed at the fuel that this machine uses...or rather the lack of fuel useage. I'm getting right at 2 hours useage under load per gallon of diesel-half of what I was getting from a similarly powered gasoline rider that my dad has.

I'll report more back as I get more seat time in,and also update with a few ideas I've got for improvements/additions.
JL

jlangton
07-16-2006, 09:58 PM
Ok,I've got one complaint...the lights on this thing are terrible. I'm definitely gonna look into changing the bulbs out for something a bit brighter and/or adding an extra set of lights to be able to mow in the darker/cooler hours around here.
JL

lb59
08-31-2007, 10:47 AM
Ok,I've got one complaint...the lights on this thing are terrible. I'm definitely gonna look into changing the bulbs out for something a bit brighter and/or adding an extra set of lights to be able to mow in the darker/cooler hours around here.
JL

My old Bolens tractors have Sealed Beam headlights just like all cars used to have and like the cars you can see very well with them.

I paid 728 bucks for the old Bolens new.
Isn't it amazing that they can put a better set of head lights on a 700 dollar tractor than they can put on a 15000 dollar tractor?????

jlangton
08-31-2007, 11:29 AM
My old Bolens tractors have Sealed Beam headlights just like all cars used to have and like the cars you can see very well with them.

I paid 728 bucks for the old Bolens new.
Isn't it amazing that they can put a better set of head lights on a 700 dollar tractor than they can put on a 15000 dollar tractor?????
It's a $7000 tractor,not $15,000. And are you sure you didn't pay $7.00 for that Bolens?
JL

lb59
08-31-2007, 11:30 AM
Picked up this Kubota G2160 last Tuesday, and have spent a few evenings familiarizing myself with it and getting some seat time in.

JL
Any idea what the Kubota G2160 would run with a front blade and a rear tiller instead of the mower deck?

jlangton
08-31-2007, 12:30 PM
Any idea what the Kubota G2160 would run with a front blade and a rear tiller instead of the mower deck?
http://kubota.com/f/Dealers/Dealers.asp
Feel free to use the phone-I'm sure somebody would be glad to help you.
JL

Drawbar
08-31-2007, 01:48 PM
To tell you the truth I am still waiting for a review.

I saw one at a local fair and thought it looked kind of cool, but I was hoping for a real world tractor review. Everything you typed I could have obtained from a sales brochure at the local Kubota Dealer.

Hows the thing mow in grass up to your knees?
Does it bog down in the heavy stuff?
Does it clump up or discharge eveningly?
What about starting in cold weather?
Hows the traction on this tractor. Good, adequate, orstill spins going up steep hills?
Does it feel tippy?
Hows the tractive effort?
Can it pull carts and assesories good?

That's the kind of stuff that a owner can tell you that a equipment dealer cannot. Can you answer some of these questions yet for me/ us?

jlangton
08-31-2007, 03:45 PM
To tell you the truth I am still waiting for a review.

I saw one at a local fair and thought it looked kind of cool, but I was hoping for a real world tractor review. Everything you typed I could have obtained from a sales brochure at the local Kubota Dealer.

Hows the thing mow in grass up to your knees?
Does it bog down in the heavy stuff?
Does it clump up or discharge eveningly?
What about starting in cold weather?
Hows the traction on this tractor. Good, adequate, orstill spins going up steep hills?
Does it feel tippy?
Hows the tractive effort?
Can it pull carts and assesories good?

That's the kind of stuff that a owner can tell you that a equipment dealer cannot. Can you answer some of these questions yet for me/ us?
For you,I'll answer them-For LB-no-he's fishing for a story to tell about a nearly free tractor he saw somewhere..he's always got some story like that to tell.

This machine cuts very good-nice even cut all the way across with no gaps of uneveness. It cuts good in grass to your shoulders-much less knees,and bog it down....not in anything I've cut with it. Dad's place after a month last summer:
http://www.mytractorforum.com/gallery/files/2/8/2/0/G2160atwork-web.jpg
It discharges very well with the high-lift blades-I didn't leave the standard blades on long enough to be able to tell.
Weighing around 1200lbs-traction is very good-esp considering it's got turf tires on it.
It's stable,does not feel tippy or like it's tip-toeing around when you turn sharply.
It's pulled everything I've attached to it-including a 20 cu-ft cart with about 700 lbs of yard debris.
My only gripe to this date is the lack of a diff lock-sometimes one tire will spin if you load it up in a ditch or similar,but it's not a terrible problem. that,and of course the terrible lighting.
Other than those two items-it's a no-brainer for a tough-as-nails powerful mowing machine that'll pull the world.
JL

slkpk
08-31-2007, 04:46 PM
Nice review and glad it's doing well for you. Please keep us updated as you get more hours on it. slkpk

lb59
09-05-2007, 03:54 PM
It's a $7000 tractor,not $15,000. And are you sure you didn't pay $7.00 for that Bolens?
JL

OK so It's a $7000 tractor but I still have better head lights on MY 2 Old Bolens 850 tractors than you have on your tractor costing thousands upon thousands more than the Bolens did.

I was just trying to discuss the difference with an intelligent being but I guess I stumbled across an ignoramus instead.

Your personal attack was uncalled for as I said nothing offensive in my other post.

Caseguytoo
09-11-2007, 11:14 AM
I was just trying to discuss the difference with an intelligent being but I guess I stumbled across an ignoramus instead.

Your personal attack was uncalled for as I said nothing offensive in my other post.


Rather than hijack this thread, I'm deleting my post and moving it to the RoundTable.

ccsial
10-13-2007, 05:00 AM
I was just trying to discuss the difference with an intelligent being but I guess I stumbled across an ignoramus instead.
post.

No you weren't. Your post was totally uncalled for. You just enjoy starting arguments.

Jlangton: Don't feel bad here. LB59 posts on another tractor forum as LBrown and is just as contentious and ornery there too. He even reports a different home area. Just consider him a troll. Your review was very interesting.

munderhill
10-13-2007, 06:15 AM
Thanks for the review. I was very interested in these when shopping for a (real) GT. They are very nice units but the Ingersoll won my vote, obviously. The rear hydraulic PTO was the deciding factor as the hydra bagger is the best system I've encountered for debris collection. I am not a fan of the fan-assisted types out there.

Thanks again.
MU

Mayor
10-13-2007, 07:36 AM
You guy know if you click on the person avatar you can add them to your ignore list. Then it will never be an issue. :fing20:

Nice review of the tractor and I hope you up date us on how it's doing and if you have any projects your working on. :thThumbsU

Drawbar
10-13-2007, 07:40 AM
Thanks for the update, that is good, real world information. Furthermore, thanks for not getting upset at my post, in hind site, and reading it later, I realized it could have been taken as "nasty". That was not my intention. I could easily see it being directed towards you, but really its just that equipment brochures tell you what you want to hear. Its always good to hear real-world customers tell it like it is.

To be honest with you, I am a ways out from buying a new tractor. I got a bigger Kubota, and smaller lawn tractor, but someday I am in hopes to replace the lawn tractor with something a touch bigger, maybe like a BX23 or something. Something definately with a loader, but maybe not the hoe. Still it won't be anytime soon.

Mayor
10-13-2007, 07:48 AM
Drawbar, my post was not because of you. I was another poster who is a major pain and I know a few of the members have him on the ignore list. Your posts / Treads are some of the best on the site. Thanks for everything!!! :thanku:

Drawbar
10-13-2007, 07:52 AM
Drawbar, my post was not because of you. I was another poster who is a major pain and I know a few of the members have him on the ignore list. Your posts / Treads are some of the best on the site. Thanks for everything!!! :thanku:

Wow, that is impressive. I've been getting some hate-mail from this site lately so its nice to hear something nice for a change. I just try to be honest and say what is right...never asked anyone to agree with me on anything.

I offend and irritate as well at times. Maybe not intentional but the written word can get misconstrued at times.

Mayor
10-13-2007, 08:00 AM
Hate mail from who?????????? Grab you torch and club and get the boys togeather. Lets go get them!!!! :trink40:

Beer and angry mobs do not mix.

jlangton
06-09-2008, 10:04 AM
Just an update....almost 70 hours on it now,and still not a single complaint. Cuts anything I drive it into,and seems to make fuel-I've never used a machine with this much power than sipped fuel like this one does. Wife wants the rear tiller,so I'll be dropping anther $2500 or so for that upgrade later on this year before next spring/gardening season comes around.
JL

slkpk
06-09-2008, 10:33 AM
Glad you still like it and it's easy on fuel. Thats a big plus in todays world. I till my garden in the fall and again in the spring. My garden is small so I don't need a rear mounted tiller I just use my little ole Troybuilt. slkpk

TSgtRet
06-09-2008, 07:28 PM
;) Jlangton I have your tractor's slightly older brother (G1800). I concur with all of the good points you noted and a few of the negatives too. Sounds like your machine improved a few of the things that I find as (small) shortcomings on mine.
My seat could definitely stand an upgrade, I like the high back but the springs are practically nonexistant, a hard bump really slams the old back.
My lighting is pretty sorry, too. Been thinking about mounting a couple aux seal beams.
I noticed they moved the battery on yours back to the "firewall" area; mine sits lower but is way out front and the + terminal is almost up against the muffler shield.
As I said, these are all minor things. I liked your comment about your tractor being able to "move the world"; ditto for mine, though with 16hp I'll be a few lengths behind you.:thThumbsU

PS I have a fuel gauge not just a light:woohoo1: BTW, where's your hubcaps?:cool:

jlangton
06-09-2008, 07:35 PM
PS I have a fuel gauge not just a light:woohoo1: BTW, where's your hubcaps?:cool:
No hubcaps-that's just pretties to get broken on a working machine :)
With a 6 gallon fuel tank-it'll work longer in one day than I want to....
JL