Moving a LGT 145

[pigsitter]

I'm getting ready to move a lgt 145 and I'm thinking this tractor will not normally freewheel.Is my memory correct and if so is there a way to get it to freewheel so that I can get it loaded to move?It's in a partially collapsed building and I'm needing to get it out before its to late!! :hide: :fing32:

[Kid Muddy]

Neutral would be as close to freewheeling as it gets. It should roll pretty easily, I can push my LGT165 around in neutral with no problem.

[pigsitter]

Thanks Kid Muddy! It's been a long time since I've messed with it and couldn't remember if it rolled or not.Now all I've got to do is jack the building up to get it out,luckily the roof stopped inches before hitting it!! :hide: :fing32:

[Kid Muddy]

Now all I've got to do is jack the building up to get it out,

Is that all? Piece of cake. ROF

:wwp: and :goodl:

[freebird]

:wwp:

[bontai Joe]

Be real CAREFUL! We would all feel sad if the tractor got damaged, but much more so to loose a fellow tractor nut :thThumbsU

[pigsitter]

Completely forgot we have to vaccinate pigs tommorrow (only 5750 head ROF) so this project will probably happen next weekend.I'll try my best to borrow my buddy's digi cam and yes I'll be extra careful as we don't want to see any damage to the tractor!!! :fing32: P.S. I'll try not to damage my tractor nut self either!! :biglaugh:

[pigsitter]

I know this is an old thread but I finally got some pictures yesterday and hope to be able to pull this thing from the wreckage in the next week or so.It's amazing what the combination of overactive wood bees and a heavy snowfall can do to an old shed!! So now for some very late pictures! :thThumbsU
this is from the main opening

[pigsitter]

and here's from the front!
this is the only contact between the tractor and the barn!

[Kid Muddy]

hope to be able to pull this thing from the wreckage in the next week or so.Pull it from the wreckage? Hell, it's a Ford, you should be able to just drive it out of there. :thThumbsU

[pigsitter]

Kid Muddy,what model LGT is your avatar?Sure is nice whatever it is! :fing32:

[Jim_WV]

:1221: Wow sitter, looks like you got your hands full getting her out of there, best of luck :fing32:

[Kid Muddy]

Kid Muddy,what model LGT is your avatar?Sure is nice whatever it is! :fing32:Thanks, it's an LGT 165 with an LGT 100 engine in it.

Just be careful getting that Ford out!

[silver hair deere]

hello

the only thing that i've found to kept carpenter bees in check is klor made by ortho .

sliver hair deere

[shimp]

im with kid muddy, i'd just drive it out there and not worry bout givin her a few scratches :praying:

[pigsitter]

I wish it would start and run,right now I know it will need a key switch and a voltage regulator and a battery as all three are missing!
By the way anybody know a readily available key switch number? I already have the regulator covered and possibly a battery, that poor 212 Deere I recently picked up is rapidly becoming a donor instead of a runner! :omg: :fing32:

[Mark432]

Get a fully charged barttery. Run a jumper to the solenoid to crank it and 12 volts to the coil. It will move. who needs a stinking key.

[Dad0850]

Pull it from the wreckage? Hell, it's a Ford, you should be able to just drive it out of there. :thThumbsU
No less than I would have expected you to say Kid!!! You tell him. Put on a helmet and drive it out! (just kidding) Safety first.

[jjinatx]

Hi Guys,

I'm new here. I just bought an LGT 145 to play around with and maybe do some restoration on. I got it from a guy who just sold his place and instead of moving everything in the barn, he put up most everything for sale on craigslist. I got the tractor, rear wheel weights, a 50" mower deck and a 3' tiller for $250. The guy said it ran fine but one day noticed the gas tank started leaking pretty badly. When he took the tank off, he found that it had rusted through and the previous owner had bondoed the tank. He ordered a new tank and at the same time decided to put everything right on the tractor. So he also ordered new belts, blades and rollers for the deck, new tank mount and mounting straps, new filters, etc. He never got around to putting it all back together and it sat for a couple of years. The only new thing mounted is the tank and it is totally clean inside and has never had any gas in it.

Before I plunked down the cash, I did check for compression and it seems fine. On getting it home, I checked the battery and it has like one live cell. I stuck a spare tractor battery I had in it and couldn't get it to crank. The ammeter dipped a little when I turned the key on (juice to the coil?), but nothing when I turned it to start. So, I touched a jumper cable from + battery to the lug on the starter and it turned over fine. The parking brake lever and knob is gone. I'll have buy one or fabricate one. I'm keeping my fingers crossed the the trans is OK.

Next things to do are: 1. Clean up the carb. The choke plate is stuck closed. I didn't want to force it so left it alone until I pull the carb. 2. Change the engine oil. 3. Check the condition of the transmission fluid. I don't think I'll change it right away. I'll wait until I get it running. 4. Figure out if the ignition switch and/or solenoid are bad. 5. Fix the leaky rear tire (it has Ag tires on the rear). 6. New spark plug.

I'm not sure what year it is, but it does not appear to have any seat switch interlock. If it ever had one it was removed and it is not immediately obvious where it would have mounted. So, if it's true there wasn't one, I'm guessing 60's or early 70's? Also, mine has a one piece hood and no side panels. This is unlike other 145s I've seen pictured.

Now for a few questions. Is there a good source of parts online for these old Fords? Is there somewhere to find out the manufacture date from the serial number? By the way, where is the serial number? Is there any common weak spots to look out for (please don't tell me it's the tranny)? Decals on the hood look good, but the rear clip has been repainted and "FORD" in block letters cut from reflective tape is stuck on the back. Is there a "Ford" decal that goes back there? Also, the decals for the dash switches, trans control and hydraulic lift are gone and replaced with "Dymo" label tape. Is there a place to get decals?

That's about all to report for now. I'm going on vacation in a couple of weeks, so I won't have much time to play with the new toy until early September. But if I can figure out what new parts to order before I go, everything will be waiting for me when I get back.

Thanks for any info.

-jj

[Kid Muddy]

Welcome to MTF JJ! Oh, and :wwp:


You got a heck of a deal at $250! :trink40:

One of the best places for info and parts for these is http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Jacobsen_Ford_Garden_Tractors/

Parts can also be found on eBay and some parts are still available at New Holland dealers.

Does yours look like this:

http://homepage.mac.com/deanrollie/.Public/Lgt%20165%2003.jpg

The model and serial numbers should be on the frame by the left front wheel. Your Ford would be a 1972-76. You can date it a little more accurately from the Kohler's serial number. See http://members.aol.com/pullingtractor/kohlcub.htm for more info.

The weak point on these tractors would be the steering. Steering parts do come up on eBay from time to time but can get pretty expensive. Don't worry about the tranny being weak, it's one of the best out there.

You can also go to https://webparts.pvassociates.net/cnh/main.php when you find the model number (or just type in LGT in the search box) and look up part numbers.

Congrats on your purchase and once again, :wwp:


Dean

[jjinatx]

Dean,

Thanks a lot for the great info. Yup, your picture looks almost exactly like mine. I noticed yours looks like it has a shroud around the drive shaft which mine is apparently missing. Also, it looks like someone added a couple of pillow blocks made out of hardwood on the long PTO shaft that goes to the rear. One other thing that came with it is another muffler that mounts vertically, like a stack. Not sure which is the original.

Here's a few pix:

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b62/jjinatx/P1100405.jpg

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b62/jjinatx/P1100404.jpg

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b62/jjinatx/P1100407.jpg

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b62/jjinatx/P1100411.jpg

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b62/jjinatx/P1100408.jpg

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b62/jjinatx/P1100403.jpg

[Kid Muddy]

Here's a pic of what the muffler should look like:

http://homepage.mac.com/deanrollie/.Public/engine.jpg
Ya know, the more I look at your pics the more I really dislike you. I can't believe you only paid $250. :banghead3 :sidelaugh

Btw, that picture I posted isn't mine. My LGT165 is my avatar photo.

Oh, and if you join the Yahoo group, the owner has made available a CD that has all the operator's/parts manuals for these tractors along with the attachments. Well worth it. :fing32:

Dean

[pigsitter]

:Welcome1: jjinatx, looks like you made out quite well for $250!! You've sure got a great launching point for a resto project,keep us posted on your progress!

[pigsitter]

It just occurred to me I've never updated my progress on this, with a little help from my moms Ingersoll 3016 the LGT145 has been freed and now it's time to turn some wrenches!

[jjinatx]

Here's a pic of what the muffler should look like:



Hmmm, the other muffler looks pretty much like that. Not sure if it is any good, but if it is and it's supposed to go across the front of the motor and exit out the right side, I'll put it back together that way.


Ya know, the more I look at your pics the more I really dislike you. I can't believe you only paid $250. :banghead3 :sidelaugh



Well, actually I bought it on the rebound. Had just missed a John Deere LT133 for $150 earlier that day. :banghead3 That one sounded like it had some engine problems from the description. Guy said it used spark plugs so I'm guessing it was sucking a lot of oil.


Btw, that picture I posted isn't mine. My LGT165 is my avatar photo.



That's a great looking tractor. Not sure if mine will ever look that good 'cause I hate to paint.

Oh, and if you join the Yahoo group, the owner has made available a CD that has all the operator's/parts manuals for these tractors along with the attachments. Well worth it. :fing32:

Dean

I definitely look into the yahoo group. Thanks again for all the good info.

-jj

[Kid Muddy]

You're welcome, jj. :trink39:


Pigsitter, that Ford looks in great shape for having a barn on top of it. :thThumbsU

Nice 3016 too!


Dean

[jjinatx]

Dean,

I was comparing the LGT 145 in the picture you posted with my tractor. It looks like it doesn't have a PTO shaft that goes to the rear of the tractor. I wanted to compare PTO shafts going to the rear. I was trying to figure out what was used originally to support the PTO shaft along the way (if anything). Mine has some homemade hardwood pillow blocks, complete with grease zerks (check out my pic).

-jj

[Kid Muddy]

Here's a couple of pages from the rear PTO manual that show the pillow block bearings used for the shaft:

http://homepage.mac.com/deanrollie/.Public/rpto1.jpg

http://homepage.mac.com/deanrollie/.Public/rpto2.jpg

I don't know if you can see it too clearly, but I do have bigger pics I can email to you.


Dean

[jjinatx]

Dean,

Thanks. Exactly what I am looking for. I saved the images and blew them up in Windows Picture Viewer. The drawings look OK but I can't quite make out the text. I'd appreciate it if you could email me the pages.

I engaged the PTO and the wooden bearings seem to work OK - the shaft spins nice and smooth. Of course, that's with no load. Anyway, I'd like to replace them with the original bearings.

-jj