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Whiskey
03-02-2006, 08:12 PM
Hello to all:

I was told about this site by and existing member today and poped in to take a look around. I'll have to say I Like what I see friendly folk chating about tractors...I'm in heaven.

Anywho, If I can figure out how to post a pic, I'll throw one up. A little back ground about the pic.

I stumbled in to Yanmar ownership many years ago on a tractor lot when I knew zero about tractors and it was just luck that I bought this little tractor or I like to think, several years after owning this little tractor I came to find out that they are a good little tractor and there was a cult (sorta speek) following for Yanmars.

Anywho, I learened (kind of) how to paint with a gun and with some proding and many E-mails back and forth with a painting I-con (inside joke) I bellied up to the bar and gave it a whirl.....we'll I'm begining to ramble on and will stop typin' here in a second and post a pic.

The tractor is a Yanmar YM187. Not a tractor you hear or see alot about, it's little brother and way more popular is the YM186.

OK, I'm going to be quiet now and try to post a pic.....
Hummm, First try didn't work....need to shrink them down a bit

glenn27
03-02-2006, 08:18 PM
WELCOME aboard "Whiskey"...lots of good info here

Tell us more--We (All the others) like to hear about deals.......

Pull up a chair and hang out awhile...

***NOTE** Put on your safety glasses , and strap yourself in--IT gets a little crazy here sometimes... :bannana:

Whiskey
03-02-2006, 08:24 PM
Glen:

Thanks for the welcome.

Second whirl at the picture thingy. If I do this right it should show 4 pic. of what it looked like before, little sample of inbetween and finnish product.

Whiskey
03-02-2006, 08:35 PM
WOW!

It worked, dial up is a killer.......

Anywho, I have like 80 something pic's of this process (ya I know, but I was learning and takin' pic's every step of the way) if someone has any stages there interested in......

Now I hopeless hooked on this painting thingy and in need of a fix like a junky and don't have anything to paint.....had the shakes for about a year now.....it ain't purdy.

There's a YM226 for sale up the road and I'm trying to get a call back from the owner with no luck....funny part is I need a tractor like a hole in the head but I just want to rip another one apart and paint it.......I know.....weird huh?

:fing20:

mark777
03-02-2006, 09:12 PM
Hey...I think I know this guy! Whiskey?? From Florida?? :Welcome1: ROF

Nice tractor Whiskey...always liked the 3 digit with external air log. Beautiful paint work.....Still have the John Deere? Tell me (and Glen27) about the deal on the other Yanmar 226.

Glad you made it to MTF and look forward to your posts..

Mark

Whiskey
03-02-2006, 09:21 PM
Hey Mark:

Yepper, I still have the (as I like to call it) other Yanmar 790 (JD790) Thanks for the words. When I get a min. I will sit down a fill out my profile...still learning how to zip around the site.

Thanks for the invite......having a ball here....so much to read and look at :bannana:

The YM226 cought my eye about 2 weeks ago on a hay run.....just sitting there looking like it need's some lovin' and like I said I need a painting project....see where I'm going with this, funny the wife didn't!

Anywho, checked on it last night and it's still there, have left 2 voice messages with no call back.......dude sure knows how to hurt a guy!....and the place is posted with no tresspassing signs and it looks like the kind of place you knock on the door and there will two barrel's starin' you in the face when it opens........

drbailey
03-02-2006, 09:28 PM
welcome to MTF Whiskey.
You Yanmar guys do nice work. thats a good looking tractor.
send all the pics you want. we enjoy them. :wwp:

Mickey
03-02-2006, 10:22 PM
Welcone to our gathering place :Welcome1: :Welcome1:

See you already know Mark.

There are several Yanmar owners here and I think we're all pleased with our little tractors.

Keep them pics and postcards coming.

Durwood
03-02-2006, 10:24 PM
Great looking tractor Whiskey! :fing32: Where did you buy your rear tires for it?

Dur

pigsitter
03-02-2006, 10:27 PM
:Welcome1: you've joined one of the nicest tractor sites on the net,hope you like it here!I almost hate to say this but as much as I love my Deere's you Yanmar guys a really starting to rub off on me! ROF Keep the pictures and a rundown of your restoration coming as you'll quickly find we really thrive on that kind of stuff around here! :wwp: thanks and welcome aboard!

mark777
03-02-2006, 10:27 PM
Great looking tractor Whiskey! :fing32: Where did you buy your rear tires for it?

Dur

Durwood, I was about to ask the same question...Man they look great on his rig...Especially the last picture.

Durwood
03-02-2006, 10:41 PM
Durwood, I was about to ask the same question...Man they look great on his rig...Especially the last picture.

I wonder if the American Yanmars and the greys have interchangable rims? If so, then maybe those wide rims and tires won't be so hard to come by.

Dur

Ingersoll444
03-03-2006, 05:35 AM
Anywho, I have like 80 something pic's of this process (ya I know, but I was learning and takin' pic's every step of the way) if someone has any stages there interested in......

:fing20:

Ahhh ya like come on, where atr the pic's?????/ :D :D


Welcome to MTF Whiskey!!!!!

mark777
03-03-2006, 08:34 AM
Whiskey,

I recall some pictures of your most excellent paint booth. There were great pic's of the sheet metal glimmering in the sun light too...you still have any of those?

Durwood,

I have never had any success with cross over wheel dimensions from JD or American Yanmar to the Greys...not saying it's impossible but most have wheels made... especially for 4WD to Turff tires.

If John Deere and Yanmar would cut loose some of their secrets, my world would be a better place :).

Jim_WV
03-03-2006, 09:12 AM
:ditto: on the :Welcome1: Whiskey !. Thats a nice looking tractor and I also like those good looking tires you got for it. Thanks for the pics :).

Wingnut
03-03-2006, 09:36 AM
Welcome Whiskey

Nice Tractor! Share your stories with us!










Yanmar Lover beats being a Yugo lover ROF ROF

Whiskey
03-03-2006, 07:53 PM
Great looking tractor Whiskey! :fing32: Where did you buy your rear tires for it?

Dur

Druwood:

First try at this quote thingy....see if I do this right.

I will agree with those of you who like the tires......I like the look of them as much as you-all do. Looks like a little pullin' tractor ROF I live in a small farming community and tractors tires are easy to come by anywho, there Titan tires and I think there web site is titantires.com......or something close.

Again, thanks for all the kind words and welcome wishes, I'm not good at buzzin' around the threads yet to than you by name....but you get the idea :thanku:

If you want pic's god knows I can load you up.....and I like looking a project pic's as much as the rest of you, Let me resize some and I see if I can post them...first one is for mark...he calls this a red neck paint booth, ya think hes right? It's and olg chicken farm building and I think the only thing holding it together is rust, but it made a fair painting booth, dust was problem...go figure!

mark777
03-03-2006, 08:48 PM
Ahhhh Yes, that's the paint shop I remember. Hey Whiskey...get to re-sizing, I need my tractor paintin' fix...:).

Whiskey
03-03-2006, 10:15 PM
OK, shrunk a couple down...

Alrighty then.....a little background one more pic of before tear down, and three pic's of after. Rember the "red neck paint booth" belongs to the guy next door and I have to keep it in a driveable state so when the sheet metal was striped down I could hop on and ride it back there....lots of tractor nakedness here so cover the kids eyes....

Whiskey
03-03-2006, 10:22 PM
some inbetween picture sillyness....

The wife bought me one box of sandwitch and one box of gallon frezor bags, cause I had no idea how to keep up with nuts and bolts while this painting process was under way.....bet I had 25-30 bags labled from start to finish but when I was slappin' it back together...peace-o-cake not one left over "gee wounder where that is spose to go" bolt!!!!!!!

ok, back to pic time

Whiskey
03-03-2006, 10:46 PM
ok, next group

Here we'll see sheet metal strippin'.......I tried a couple differant ways.
1) metal strippin' goo. It worked ok, but was messy, smelled bad and made a hell of a mess washing it off. Another thing was I was on someone else's property and had no idea what to do with the washed off mess and worried about it gettin' into the ground water......don't know if that could happen but I thought about it!!!! oh, one more thing...rubber gloves, the kind that go midway up your arm...ya those..they suck! and you sweat like a pig in them. god only knows how our grandma's wore them all the time. made my hands and fingers look like little prunes...

2) couple of "paint removing" junk for drills and grinders for the box hardware stores......most were junk and a wast of cash flow...maybe good for a small area but not a whole hood or finder

3) Twisted wire wheels...not wire wheels...twisted!....for a hand held grinder....bingo! this was the ticket ate paint like it was hungry and left shinny clean metal as in one of the pic's bellow. Draw back is it's LOUD and I mean very LOUD! ear ringing loud and you'll have paint dust all over you. I put on simple dust mask, plastic safty goggles and plugs in my ears. You haven't herd loud till you've had your face close to a metal fender with a grinder in your hand.....high piched scream!!!!! Ouch! Anywho, you'll go home and your arms and what ever else wasn't covered will be what ever color your grinding off..even had a red butt crack one time that was weird...but thats another story and I don't know you all that well yet!

The gray primer shots we're some of the first time I fired up the gun......learned one thing here very quickly....cut the primer!!! I don't care what the dude at tractor supply tells you....cut the primer with hardner.....it orangle peeled on me bad.....yuck!

Side bar...this was all painted using BPS paint from your local Tractor Supply Store

Whiskey
03-03-2006, 10:50 PM
ok, it's like 11 o-clock and my eyes are crossin' and my work week was bellow par. I was lookin' for Friday bvy Monday afternoon.....if you guy's still want to see more I'll be more that happy to post them over the weekend

BruceR
03-04-2006, 05:01 AM
Great shots Whiskey. Keep em coming. But why did you need to take it down to bare metal ?

Bruce

Ingersoll444
03-04-2006, 05:14 AM
Great shots Whiskey. Keep them comming!

Michael
03-04-2006, 05:15 AM
What a neat job and you really did a great job, Now that you got me hooked I want to see more pictures, Please keep them coming. I won't be here to later Saturday night as I have to take my tracotr down to my buddies house 55 miles away to have some welding done on the weight box that I broke off my Tractor, My FEL is hooked to the weight box and I sheared off the front plate off the front plate to the tractor and the weight box and the FEL went chasing into ground.So maybe when I get back I can see more pictures :wwp:

Whiskey
03-04-2006, 06:50 AM
BruceR:

It was the was I was taught how to paint.....prep is everything in how the out come will look. Is it a step that has to be takin' as far as I did....no, but with the picture I had in my head of how the out come would look this was a must for me, I'm also very anal in thought and detail....sometimes it's a curse.

Ingersoll444 & Michael:
Thanks.....see if I can't get a couple more pic's up in a bit.

Whiskey
03-04-2006, 07:10 AM
alrighty then...onward shall we

first order of buiness..coat hangers....ya thats right were going to talk about coat hangers. I cut every metal coat hanger I had, they work great for hanging parts to be primed and painted alowing you to get to both sides. Only draw back was chasing the light ones with the paint gun......hit it with the air off the gun and it wants to dance, oh well can't win them all.

If you can see in the pic's there is a sheen or shine to the primer that was not there in the group that I posted last night......it's called using hardner in the primer, took me a bit to learn this. two perks with using hardner in the primer.

1) dry time, the red neck paint booth was the cleanest place in the world and when you start sprayin' dust and fly's love you.........

2) nice hard finnish with a little light sanding in a cross hatch pattern it takes paint very well.

One thing to remember about this painting thing for those of you who may want to try this...you can always sand off what you don't like and try again and god knows there was a time I thought I was sanding off more paint than I was spraying on......

glenn27
03-04-2006, 07:10 AM
great pics--I'm hanging out also.... :wwp:

Whiskey
03-04-2006, 07:25 AM
Here you'll start to see color, If you look closely on the hood pic you can see it's not looking smooth and semi-shinny. My first couple of trys did not produce what I was looking for for a couple of reasions.

1) I wanted to cover the thing in one pass, it's a guy thing I guess.....light coats are better than a couple of heavy coats, took me a bit to get my brain to understand this.....

2) mixing paint and hardner, took some time but you'll get it and when your sturing the cocktail in the mixing can you'll start to know when you get it right and when you start spraying you can see how it lays down, it's a little hard to explain but you know when it's right

Whiskey
03-04-2006, 07:34 AM
More red....and my shine is starting to look better

Ingersoll444
03-04-2006, 07:41 AM
On the shiny primer...

I did the same thing. I added the hardner to the primer on my 8N project, and that block has more shine then any of my cars. :D I goofed and have wacked it with some wrenches and stuff and have not put a mark in it. One thing I have learned is I am not putting the same ammont in, at diferent times. Making up small batches makes that easyer to do.

Whiskey
03-04-2006, 07:54 AM
Ingersoll444:

Yes, well put, and like you said it makes for a tuff as nails paint job.

Some more color.....and I had to snap a couple out in the sun....

In the sun you can see a couple of dull spots...more of the learning curve thingy :banghead3

Whiskey
03-04-2006, 08:00 AM
so.......am I driving anybody nuts yet with pic's?

more color out in the sun, Hood was not quite there yet as you'll see in pic's down the road but I'm happy with most other parts

Opps forgot the pic's..... :00000060:

Ken N Tx
03-04-2006, 08:23 AM
Nice work Whiskey :fing32:

Keep the pics coming, you can't bore us!! :bannana:

And :Welcome1:

mark777
03-04-2006, 08:49 AM
so.......am I driving anybody nuts yet with pic's?

more color out in the sun, Hood was not quite there yet as you'll see in pic's down the road but I'm happy with most other parts

Opps forgot the pic's..... :00000060:

Whiskey, I want to ask a few questions about your process and the start up costs, so the average tractor guy knows what to expect.

I see the good old belt driven compressor, but what kind, type and price of the gun did (do) you use? Any other equipment that was a must?
What did you use for scuffing the primer before paint? And what did you use as a final wash before primer (and, or paint)?
You used catalyst (hardener) in the primer, but I know there are no instructions on the back of BPS primer cans...so how much or what ratio (I also use the hardener in the primer)??
Did you dry sand/wet sand primer and top coats? If so, what grit gave you the best results?
If I'm not being too personal...What do you figure your costs for the entire job (start to finish) would run for the average "Joe" tractor paint job??
Why BPS instead of a high-line automotive finish"
I'm a painting old fool..and many others paint as well, I'm never too old to learn though. I think a fresh perspective from someone just deciding to "DO IT" and document the whole process is...well, just cool.
How'd you feel doing it yourself vs. taking it to a paint shop? (You don't have to answer that one)

Great pictures and tutorial :fing32: .

Thanks, Mark