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mbkerk
02-28-2006, 09:48 PM
This is a milestone post for me... but after one more, nobody will be able to figure out why!

The big Avery was originally restored in the late 1980's by Jim B., the late Norman P, and is nephew Mark P. I am sure there were others involved in a huge way, but I have not been told of them yet. I was invited to the crew about 4 years ago, so I am still learning!

When the engine was restored, the cab was built from the ground up. There was no prints to go from, only pictures. I am told that a man by the name of Don B. from Forsythe, MT was the best source as to how the cab was to be built. Mark P, who will be pictured later in this thread, built the original cab back then (he was 23 years old then!)

The years and the wrong choice of lumber caught up with the cab over the years. Maple was the choice of wood to build the cab, but after a few years it started to rot. It is thought that the hardwood supplier sold them "sugar maple"... and that is what caused this condition. The engine is always stored inside! After the show the engine was loaded on a semi for the trip to Fargo. Jim B, the engines owner, also owns a machine shop in Fargo where we do a lot winter projects like this, many of them I have posted here on MTF. Mark P was drafted to build the new cab... who better! Mark asked me to help him, and I agreed, so the two of us went to work tearing it down. Jim B cut up some Ash in his sawmill, and later took it home to cut and plane it closer to the dimension we needed. We decided not to use Maple again! I took a TON of pictures. There were none taken the first time it was built, and we wanted to be sure we knew how to get it back together!

I will build this thread over the next week or so, like I did with the boiler thread, so I have time to figure out which pictures to use, and get them re-sized.

The first picture (below) is the first day of the tear down after we got the tin roof and the left "window" off of the cab. Where the Maple was sound, we could not pull the nails out that held the steel to the wood frame. The nails in the window panel were 1" on center (see lower fender panel), and we had to drill the heads off of the nails so as not to damage the steel which we re-used.

http://www.98dodge.com/images/avery%20cab%201.jpg

Below shows what was happening to the Maple. It got worse year after year and we started to wonder when it was going to fall off! This is the back left corner, where the cab bolts to the water tank.

http://www.98dodge.com/images/avery%20cab%202.jpg

Below... right front corner, more of the same rot!

http://www.98dodge.com/images/avery%20cab%203.jpg

I have no idea what is growing here (below), but we didn't want it there! You can see the detail of some of the joints we had to duplicate.

http://www.98dodge.com/images/avery%20cab%204.jpg

Looks pretty tough now, but over the course of the next 4 weekends it looks like new again! Mark P is a perfectionist when it comes to projects like this, so there were no shortcuts taken!

This work was done in January 2005, prior to the boiler work we did this winter. The cab stayed on the engine just fine, and even covered some 500 miles on a semi between shows, so it was a success!

To be continued...

Jim_WV
02-28-2006, 09:58 PM
Hey Mark congrats on the 1000 post ! :trink39:

Looks like quite a project, interesting reading and the pics are great, will be interested to see how this turns out :fing32:

Ingersoll444
03-01-2006, 05:43 AM
Ya congrats on number 1000!! And keep them coming!!!!!!! These projects are part of a dieing era, and we may never get a chance to see it agean. Thanks for posting them!!!

mbkerk
03-08-2006, 12:01 AM
Guess I should post a little more here! Been very busy lately, so I have not had a lot of time to play computer!

The first picture shows the steel "windows" we removed from the sides of the cab, as well as the roof truss. The roof was made from pine, and was not affected by the rot, so it will be re-used. The steel was sandblasted, painted, and re-used.

http://www.98dodge.com/images/avery%20cab%205.jpg

Below is a picture of the engine without the cab. Man does it look strange.

http://www.98dodge.com/images/avery%20cab%206.jpg

And this one (below) outside the shop. It would be about a month before it came back in to get the new cab re-installed.

http://www.98dodge.com/images/avery%20cab%207.jpg

Jim likes us to get everything we can done every time it comes into the shop. It is a very busy welding / machine shop, so the engine cannot stay in during the week. Everything has to be done on weekends, it goes back out in the snow on Monday morning. The only way to move the 42,000 pound engine is to call the neighbors, a redi-mix plant, to come over with their monster pay-loader and pull it! Even then it is a bi+ch to steer as the grease is cold, and the front end is so light, all it wants to do is slide on the ice. The fewer trips in and out, the better!

Next time... we put it all back together!

Ingersoll444
03-08-2006, 05:42 AM
Wooooo Mark... Hold on there....


I see a smoke box hiding behind that big Avery there.... You hiding another project from us????? :D :D

jodyand
03-08-2006, 06:19 AM
:ditto: Its a smaller Case tractor. :wwp: :wwp:

Carl
03-08-2006, 08:58 AM
Mbkerk, just read about wood decomposition. Seems the fungi are always in the wood waiting to be activated by moisture. Different woods are more or less susceptable to the fungi activity. Is the wood cab a standard with the Avery tractor? Could use the treated wood, but it likes to attack steel. I'm betting that the wood wasn't painted where it sits on the Avery, so it could stay wet when rain water would get under the wood. Or condensation from the water tanks when refilled with cold water.

mbkerk
03-08-2006, 10:59 AM
Paul and Jody... It is a 60 Case behind the Avery. As a matter of fact, it belongs to Joe S. and is the engine that the 60 Case water tank was built for, mentioned elsewhere in "The Boiler Room" Forum. These pictures were taken last year though, and I can't remember why the Case was in there last year. I think they re-babbitted some bearings on the drive axle. Also seen in the picture is a diesel drag line, and a big Cat dozer. The Cat got new clutches, and the drag line still sits there. I am not sure what it needs. All kinds of Rollag (Western Minnesota Steam Threshers Reunion) projects find there way to that shop!

Carl... The Cab was as close to original as it could be made. The originals were made out of some sort of hardwood. It was painted 100% with high priced automotive paint the first time too, but something went haywire with the wood. If I ever suggested using pressure treated wood to Mark P. (The guy in charge) he would probably fire me! He is a nut when it comes to making things original, even though it may be more practical.

mbkerk
03-14-2006, 03:49 PM
A few more pictures...

Here is a shot of the "fit up" we did. After all of the wood was cut, we put the structure together to make sure is all fit right and trip and adjust as needed.

http://www.98dodge.com/images/avery%20cab%208.jpg
http://www.98dodge.com/images/avery%20cab%209.jpg

This is the boss... Mark P, who built the original cab when he was a lot younger. Mark also had a lot to do with putting the engine together.
http://www.98dodge.com/images/avery%20cab%2010.jpg
His uncle, Norman P. was 1/2 owner of the engine with Jim until he passed on a few years back, so Mark has got family ties to this engine. Mark also has a lot of steam engines in his collection, including a 110 Case, and 80 Case, a 32 Reeves, and an Advance, and an Aultman Taylor. He has many more waiting restoration, and has dozens and dozens of rare gas tractors, BIG and small in his collection!


This is the roof structure in my shop. I took it home and cleaned it up, and then re-painted it there.
http://www.98dodge.com/images/avery%20cab%2011.jpg

... and a shot of the framing after it was all painted and re-installed on the engine.

http://www.98dodge.com/images/avery%20cab%2012.jpg

All that is left now is getting the rest of the steel on, and painting.

More later...

mbkerk
04-02-2006, 06:45 PM
Here is the rest of the story! Sorry this has taken so long, but there is a lot of other things taking my time, this time of year!

Below is a shot of myself (on wheel) and Mark P. (hiding in cab) working on some finishing touches, nailing the steel back to the framing.
http://www.98dodge.com/images/avery%20cab%2013.jpg

It took us about 4 hours to mask the cab to get it ready for paint.
http://www.98dodge.com/images/avery%20cab%2014.jpg

Below, Mark P. Climbs all over the boiler and the drivers to get at the cab with the paint gun. The reason for the grainy look of the picture is because of all the paint in the air. We do not have access to a paint booth in the machine shop!
http://www.98dodge.com/images/avery%20cab%2015.jpg

Finally, the cab is black again! All that is left is the pin striping, which didn't get done for a few more months...
http://www.98dodge.com/images/avery%20cab%2016.jpg

Oh... back a few weeks, while the cab was still off... Was the perfect time to paint the boiler! This gets done every 3 years or so. Below, Rick H. takes his turn with the brush. Too bad it doesn't stay that shiny for long!
http://www.98dodge.com/images/avery%20cab%2017.jpg

Continued...

mbkerk
04-02-2006, 06:57 PM
Just finishing up with a few fun shots...

Here the 40 is loaded back onto the RGN for transport back to Rollag. This is in June 2005, just in time for the Breakfast On The Farm celebration we hosted on the show grounds last year.
http://www.98dodge.com/images/avery%20cab%2018.jpg

First trip up the hill, the same day we hauled it back there! My wife Katy is doing the honors, I was firing!

http://www.98dodge.com/images/avery%20cab%2019.jpg

I think this picture was taken during show time. We are in the parade. I am engineer in this picture, and my brother Tim (Mack Trucks here at MTF) is firing for me. One of my twin daughters is riding behind me.
http://www.98dodge.com/images/avery%20cab%2020.jpg

This is in the Briden / Roen sawmill at Rollag. The Avery is running the main saw here. There is an 80 HP Case skid engine that runs the carriage, smaller end saws, blowers, and other misc. equipment. There is also a 110 HP Case Skid in the sawmill that can be belted to the main saw if there isn't sufficient power available for the job... NOT a problem when we are in there!!! In this picture Kelly M. is at the throttle, his father Gary is firing, and Mark P is "supervising!" Note the bright fire showing through the firebox door.
http://www.98dodge.com/images/avery%20cab%2021.jpg

More in another thread sometime!