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horseman1
10-24-2005, 03:40 PM
Last night we unloaded a 1200 lb large bale of hay delivered in the bed of a large pickup. We backed the pickup into the barn, chained the bale to one of the big support beams in the barn and drove the truck out from under it. Now, because of some unforseen events that ocurred, lets just say that the bale did not end up exactly where I had intended :banghead3. The bale found its way right in the middle of the aisle. This didnt make the lovely Mrs. Horseman any too happy (Hard to imagine, but this is not the first time she has been less than pleased with some of my antics) :eek: . No problem I told her, I and my trusty 2210 will take care of this problem. She walked out of the barn with that look on her face. You know the one I'm talking about....

I know that 1200 lbs is too much to lift with the 2210, but I figure I only have to lift half the weight and do a little pushing to get it into the right spot.

Turning this problem into opportunity to test one of my kooky attachments, I decided to go with the 3pt 2" receiver ---> sleeve hitch adapter ---> sleeve hitch fork I made a while back. I never used the fork all that much anyway and if it breaks under the load, so what, another excuse to do some welding.... The forks were originally designed for a winch powered sleeve hitch and werent really long enough for this job but what the he!!. I know I cant lift the whole bale, I just want to tip it up some. Besides, how often do you get to test 3 homemade contraptions all at the same time?

So, I back up to the bale with the forks under it and I tilt it about 2" off the floor and the 3pt stops dead in its tracks.... Well, I'm glad my forks didnt break, but I figured the 3pt would have a bit more gonads than that. :hide:

Next, I decided that the FEL might be able to do the job. Sure enough, I could have tipped it over easily if I had wanted to and pushed it anywhere I wanted. I ended up getting it cose and then pulled it out of the aisle. :bannana:

So, the question is : Why doesnt the 3pt have the power of the FEL? I have considered the fact that with all the things hooked to the hitch that the weight of the load was a ways away from the tractor, but only a foot or two...

Is this normal, and how could I check the lifting capacity of the 3pt to make sure it is working at its full capability?

Thanks!

JDFANATIC
10-24-2005, 04:56 PM
Kurt,

My guess is that everything is working fine. The 3PH on the 2210 is rated at 701 lbs. 24" out. The loader is rated for 620 lbs. to full lift height, but we all know now that one TBN poster tested it, and the loader could actually pick up 1170 lbs to 16" high. My suspicion is that the geometry of your lifting device, had the weight quite a bit further out than that 24" dimension.

Cheers

JDFANATIC
JD2210

ducati996
10-24-2005, 07:18 PM
I concur with JD Fanatics response !! I bet if you load 700 lbs in you ballast box, it will be fine....

MowHoward2210
10-24-2005, 08:21 PM
Yup, you had a cantilever effect in play on your 3pt.

horseman1
10-24-2005, 08:24 PM
I think this picture of the three devices hooked together will provide more evidence that you are all correct. Also, as you can see in the picture, because the forks were not designed with this tractor and hitch in mind, they dont start at the bottom of the stroke, but instead part way up. Could that have a bearing on the lift capacity too?

The weight is pretty far back there between all the "adapters"....

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v185/kurt_co/tractors/2210_and_salad_fork_a.jpg

The original use for the "salad" forks on the GT before I finsihed welding and paint:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v185/kurt_co/tractors/Fork1.jpg

Maybe I'll weld up some "real" 3pt forks for the back instead of the sleeve hitch salad forks!

Thanks!