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: 23X10.5X12 ag tires, rim question


Home Wood
03-03-2010, 07:06 PM
I bought a set of super lug carlisles in the above size for my John Deere 265. The rims I have seem to be too thin by about 1 to 2 inches. Do I have the right rim or are these tires just different from turf tires and are really hard to put on?

I bought these loose rims off ebay about a year ago and I'm positive the ad said they were for 10.5" wide tires. These tires don't flex like turf savers do, so that's why I'm posting what may be a very dumb question. Thanks!

stladrill
03-03-2010, 07:11 PM
If I remember good 23x10.50-12 go on 8.5 rim wide, someone can confirm that?

migraineman
03-03-2010, 07:33 PM
You can grab the Carlisle catalog. (http://www.carlisletire.com/media/catalogs/index.html) It lists the recommended rim dimensions for their tires.

Home Wood
03-03-2010, 07:44 PM
Thanks for the help. The catalog doesn't list this size for the super lug. It does list this size for the true power tires. The rim width for the true power is 7 inches. I guess I have the right rims and these suckers are just really hard to put on. I got one of them almost all the way on with about 4 or 5 inches of bead left to roll on. I couldn't go any further. The rim lip bent! Any suggestions to get these on?

paul52446m
03-03-2010, 08:33 PM
I lot of 23 10.5 12 tires are only 9" wide, but the carlisles are just about the width they say they are. I ordered a set of lugs for a pulling tractor and the one a got were 8.5 wide sent them back and ordered the carlises. But for a pulling tractor using a 10.5 wide tire you build your wheels to be 11" wide.
Later Paul

DeereMan
03-03-2010, 08:42 PM
Thanks for the help. The catalog doesn't list this size for the super lug. It does list this size for the true power tires. The rim width for the true power is 7 inches. I guess I have the right rims and these suckers are just really hard to put on. I got one of them almost all the way on with about 4 or 5 inches of bead left to roll on. I couldn't go any further. The rim lip bent! Any suggestions to get these on?

It sounds like you might be installing them from the wrong side of the wheel. The tire has to go on the wheel on the same side as the valve stem. The tire bead has to be able to slip down into the drop center of the wheel in order to have enough clearance for the tire bead to clear the wheel rim. If you were applying enough pressure to bend the wheel you are doing something wrong.

shorty
03-03-2010, 08:50 PM
You need to take them to a tire shop and let them put the tires on the wheels with the new style mounting machine. The "V" in the rim isn't out far enough to allow the tire to go in so you can stretch the tire over the outside of the rim.

Home Wood
03-03-2010, 08:52 PM
Ok that makes sense. Thanks. I thought I was going to have to hunt for rims..again!

D-Dogg
03-03-2010, 08:53 PM
If I remember good 23x10.50-12 go on 8.5 rim wide, someone can confirm that?
Mais bien sur!

My rims are 8.5" wide. Rule of thumb is 1.5" - 2.5" narrower than the tire.

Small Fry
03-03-2010, 09:25 PM
If I remember good 23x10.50-12 go on 8.5 rim wide, someone can confirm that?


That is how it once was. Carlisle now is saying 7 inch rim for most of their 10.50 tires. They may have change the tires a little ?

stladrill
03-03-2010, 09:49 PM
Mais bien sur!

My rims are 8.5" wide. Rule of thumb is 1.5" - 2.5" narrower than the tire.


Bravo,,, :fing32: I was all mix up at first :biglaugh:

blown67
03-03-2010, 10:14 PM
These are 26x12x12's and they got mounted on 8.5" wide rims, they are 8 ply, I was able to get one side on by hand but no way I could even get the other side started, brought them to town fair tire and for 12 bucks they popped them right on for 12 bucks.

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High Cetane
03-03-2010, 10:46 PM
Where to find the 12x8.5" wheel?
Is there anyone that might offer a package deal, ie; AT101s mounted on 8.5 wheels for a Craftsman GT?
I take it the wheel is a common generic bolt pattern & BS....
Any help is appreciated...
Norm

D-Dogg
03-03-2010, 10:53 PM
Where to find the 12x8.5" wheel?
Is there anyone that might offer a package deal, ie; AT101s mounted on 8.5 wheels for a Craftsman GT?
I take it the wheel is a common generic bolt pattern & BS....
Any help is appreciated...
Norm

Norm, those are very common rims. All over Ebay. Also I believe millertire sells rims and could most likely get you a package deal.

Protrucker
03-03-2010, 11:00 PM
I bought a set of super lug carlisles in the above size for my John Deere 265. The rims I have seem to be too thin by about 1 to 2 inches. Do I have the right rim or are these tires just different from turf tires and are really hard to put on?

I bought these loose rims off ebay about a year ago and I'm positive the ad said they were for 10.5" wide tires. These tires don't flex like turf savers do, so that's why I'm posting what may be a very dumb question. Thanks!

Where'd you find those Super Lug's? If you don't mind, could you say what you paid for them?

Home Wood
03-04-2010, 08:07 AM
I found them at my local Tractor Supply Comp.

GT_80
03-04-2010, 08:40 AM
If I remember good 23x10.50-12 go on 8.5 rim wide, someone can confirm that?

8.5 or 8 would be fine- I imagine they will be tough to get on- use long tire irons. :)

GT_80
03-04-2010, 08:42 AM
Where to find the 12x8.5" wheel?
Is there anyone that might offer a package deal, ie; AT101s mounted on 8.5 wheels for a Craftsman GT?
I take it the wheel is a common generic bolt pattern & BS....
Any help is appreciated...
Norm

I think the factory SS18, or GT18 rims with 23x10.5 12 are an 8.5" rim. I have two sets of those, but not for sale.

Small Fry
03-04-2010, 11:04 AM
I think the factory SS18, or GT18 rims with 23x10.5 12 are an 8.5" rim. I have two sets of those, but not for sale.

Some were 8.5 but many were 7. I have know idea why the same tractor would come with different size rims but they did.

The super lugs did call for 8.5 rim. Sears sold them mounted on 7 inch rims for years. Just a while back a member bought some their. On sale they were 180 rim and all.

I just mounted some 4 ply HDAP tires this morning, no problem. Soap them up good and take little bites with your bars.

Mkos1980
03-04-2010, 12:54 PM
Where'd you find those Super Lug's? If you don't mind, could you say what you paid for them?

I also just got a set of the "True" Carlisle Super Lugs. Found a discontinued set on ebay. Paid $220 to my door. People have seen them at TSC but when I go there they have just the OffBrand Hi-Run brand that says "Super Lug " on them.

Kansas John Deere
03-04-2010, 07:26 PM
I bought a set of super lug carlisles in the above size for my John Deere 265. The rims I have seem to be too thin by about 1 to 2 inches. Do I have the right rim or are these tires just different from turf tires and are really hard to put on?

I bought these loose rims off ebay about a year ago and I'm positive the ad said they were for 10.5" wide tires. These tires don't flex like turf savers do, so that's why I'm posting what may be a very dumb question. Thanks!

So what you are asking is how do i mount them on your rims? If that is the case then get yourself a squirt bottle put about a 50-50 mixture of luquid laundry soap and water in it. Spray the bead on the new tires and they should just about slide on the rim with very little effort...Just put them on a severe angle to start on the rim. Once the first bead is on the second one will go on pretty east with just some pushing and perhaps a large screwdriver.
Now for setting the bead for air GOOD LUCK. I had to take mind to a tire store to have them do it for me my ole air compressor didnt have enough guts to get them sealed..........

Home Wood
03-04-2010, 08:45 PM
I know how to mount tires. I put new front tires on just fine. I just couldn't get the last 5 inches of the second bead on with these ag tires. I was also curious if the rims I have are too thin. I usually use straight dish soap.

PA318Guy
03-04-2010, 08:55 PM
They are definitely tight tires and as others have recommended take to a tire shop for mounting! Worth the minimal amount to have them done!

Mkos1980
03-04-2010, 11:51 PM
They are definitely tight tires and as others have recommended take to a tire shop for mounting! Worth the minimal amount to have them done!

Ditto. At first when I called the big auto tire chains they said no to tractor tires, but i still went up to my local NTB and they said ehh we'll try. 2 minutes later they were done andthey said your all set, On the house! Since then I've always taken my tractor tires up there usually Sunday mornings with a dozen doughnuts!! Never been charged lol.

building the dream
03-12-2010, 07:10 PM
i feel real silly but... how does it, or doesnt it, work when you put a 23/10.50x12 on a 10x12 wheel? i am thinking about it for the pulling applications to get all of the bar of the ags to dig, and less of a ball like affect.

Small Fry
03-12-2010, 07:41 PM
Should work ok. This link says 11 inch rims works well with that size tire.

http://gardentractorpullingtips.com/wheels.htm