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Little bit of work on the LittleTrailer today...

Over the past couple of years, I've noticed that the gate latch pins on my 6 foot landscaping trailer have been wearing fairly badly at the tips... then about 8 months ago, the spring retainer for the left hand side let go so the latch no longer stayed done up tightly. No problem, as long as the latch was pushed down into its "engaged" slot. Which I always do... then I helped a friend pick up some furniture in February, after which I noticed my left-side latch was gone. So today I decided to do something about that. First, I called the number for the company (it was stenciled on my trailer fender), to see if they had those latches as spare parts. That's when I found out the company has been out of business for 5 years. Whoops. Plan B - Take the existing one off and take it to my local machine shop to get them to make me some replacements. So out I go to the trailer to take it off. First step, carefully remove the JC clip that retains the spring.... You all know the kind of clip I'm talking about; the ones that look like little "c"''s and when you get them partially off you shout "Jeepers Creepers!" (Or something close to that) as they go "Ppppppiiiingggg! " off into neverfindland... So being the careful guy that I am, I kept my pliers over the clip as I pried with the screwdr - "Pppiiiinnng!"

Okay, time to go to the machine shop and see if they can fix me up real quick now, since both my patches are now U/S...

The good news is, my machine shop guy can do me up a pair in about a half hour. The bad news is, he doesn't carry a stock of c clips. So, driving around for 45 minutes, I find them at the third place, Greggs Distributing, where a lovely young lady sells me four (always good to have spares!) "retaining clips" at .45 a piece. Worth it just to learn what their official name is!

So here they are, before I painted them



A few hours for the black Rustoeum to dry and out I go to pop them on...



Which of course strips off most of the paint! Still, they're the best looking part on the whole trailer now!


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Fancy!

So now you have the LittleTrailer repair business on the side?

At least you didn't use duct tape like I have seen in the past. Went to an auction one time and the ramps were being held down by duct tape..... That looked really safe!

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Plan B - Take the existing one off and take it to my local machine shop to get them to make me some replacements. So out I go to the trailer to take it off. First step, carefully remove the JC clip that retains the spring.... You all know the kind of clip I'm talking about; the ones that look like little "c"''s and when you get them partially off you shout "Jeepers Creepers!" (Or something close to that) as they go "Ppppppiiiingggg! " off into neverfindland... So being the careful guy that I am, I kept my pliers over the clip as I pried with the screwdr - "Pppiiiinnng!"

Okay, time to go to the machine shop and see if they can fix me up real quick now, since both my patches are now U/S...

The good news is, my machine shop guy can do me up a pair in about a half hour. The bad news is, he doesn't carry a stock of c clips. So, driving around for 45 minutes, I find them at the third place, Greggs Distributing, where a lovely young lady sells me four (always good to have spares!) "retaining clips" at .45 a piece. Worth it just to learn what their official name is!
An adventure that I'm sure most of us have experienced at some point.

"Retaining clip" is the generic name for clips of various configurations. What you have is an "E clip" for use on the outside of a pin or shaft. "C clips" come configured for either outside of the shaft use , or inside of a hole and used to retain bearings, etc,

All three are available in handy, compartmented, clear plastic containers holding several sizes at PAL for a few bucks. They do go on sale for about half price periodically.

E clip



C clip - outer surface of a shaft.



C clip - Inside a hole.


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On MTF you never know when you will pick up more edgeamacation.

Nice fix littletractorguy! It will be nice to know when you head down the road the tailgate is not going to fall down.

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Greggs Distributing, where a lovely young lady sells me four (always good to have spares!) "retaining clips" at .45 a piece. Worth it just to learn what their official name is!
It is always good to have spares. But, you do have to remember where you put them!

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I like the new latches! Be careful that doesn't turn into a bigger paint job, if you know what I mean...

Those e-clips are available at most major hardware stores, and usually at auto parts stores, for future reference.

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I've lost my share of those "Jesus clips",and am not a fan of any of the 3 styles--you always lose the "special" one you cant buy anywhere on a Sunday--or any other day of the week sometimes around here,like the snap rings on a 4x4 truck hub..
Even if you have 50 on hand,none will ever be the right size too,just like v-belts..
....sometimes a strong magnet held near one while you remove one catches it before it flies out into oblivion..

My truck's Fisher plow pins had huge "E" clips on the spring loaded pins that attach the plow push frame to the truck's push bar..those dissapeared many times,I tried using "C" clips but they were a sloppy fit on the shaft and fell off,and were a super pain to get on--and the next smallest size couldn't be spread open enough to fit over the pin--I tried using hose clamps,they held a whole winter but eventually broke..

I finally decided to drill the plow pins for cotter pins in the end..if the "E" clips came off,it would allow the pin,spring,and washers fall off somewhere "on the road",and its not fun to have that happen during a snowstorm..one night I had to shove a tire iron in place of the missing pin and duct tape it in place,so I could plow!..


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Fancy!

So now you have the LittleTrailer repair business on the side?

At least you didn't use duct tape like I have seen in the past. Went to an auction one time and the ramps were being held down by duct tape..... That looked really safe!
I can't say I didn't at least THINK about duct tape... But I wouldn't want to trust my precious'ses to just duct tape!

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An adventure that I'm sure most of us have experienced at some point.

"Retaining clip" is the generic name for clips of various configurations. What you have is an "E clip" for use on the outside of a pin or shaft. "C clips" come configured for either outside of the shaft use , or inside of a hole and used to retain bearings, etc,

All three are available in handy, compartmented, clear plastic containers holding several sizes at PAL for a few bucks. They do go on sale for about half price periodically.
DOH! I never even thought about checking The Princess Store! Thanks for that, Tudor! I'll have to keep an eye on the sale bills, then pick up a pack... They can nestle in right beside my pack-o-a-thousand various cotter pins, the box-o-many-rubber-grommets and the container-o-assorted-nylock-nuts I have sourced from Princess in the past

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Nice fix littletractorguy! It will be nice to know when you head down the road the tailgate is not going to fall down.
Yeah, it'll be even nicer for the person driving behind me!

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It is always good to have spares. But, you do have to remember where you put them!
See, THAT'S where the bin-o-many-e-clips is such a good idea! Most of the bins come with those hangy-uppy plastic thingies (maybe Tudor knows the technical term for that one too! ) that let you put them up on your pegboard. Thats the only reason why I know where my other ones are!

So, next step in my cunning plan is to replace the rotting chipboard deck on that trailer... Maybe if we don't get the snow they're calling for this weekend...
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I like the new latches! Be careful that doesn't turn into a bigger paint job, if you know what I mean...
Well, I HAVE been thinking about maybe doing a restore on the whole trailer... But I have to find some way to convince Larry or KATT to come up here as external consultants.

If my fenders rot completely through, I do have a spare set of fenders off a RF 110 I could tack on, then I'd have to paint the rest of the trailer JD Green



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....sometimes a strong magnet held near one while you remove one catches it before it flies out into oblivion..
Hmmm! Thats an interesting thought. I have some lovely rare-earth ones I dug out of hard drives, I wonder if I put one on the latch itself if there would be enough proximity effect to catch the clip....
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Ha! Good times...

As TH mentioned, truck builders seem to have a twisted love affair with using these things in their designs for 4WD hubs, etc. I always thought castle nuts and cotter pins were sufficient, but what do I know?

Speaking of which, with hindsight being 20/20, you probably could have made your own replacement pins (without the machine shop) by simply drilling a hole through the pin, and using a cotter pin behind a flat washer to keep the spring in place. Maybe I'll use that idea in the future.

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