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Old 12-27-2010, 10:12 AM   post #1 of 38
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Looking for a B series...something with a little power but not too big to help out in the woods leveling trails, removing buckthorn, cutting wood, etc...not to say help with the driveway and landscaping. Need manuverability in the woods when on the trails which we use for hiking and x-country skiing. Is there enough size difference between the 25 and 30 horse models to make a difference?

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I am assuming you are looking at a B2320 through B2920? IOW, the 20 series?

Within the model series, Kubota typically offers a couple horsepower choices. There is a price premium (read profit) for each step, of course.

The hydro power is often identical, so the slight difference in horsepower is only really noticed at the PTO for operating cutter, blowers, chippers and such.

As most everyone will tell you, horsepower is rarely the core issue. Traction and features being far more important. Since the tractors within a model/series are essentially identical, they will perform virtually the same, in the real world.

The larger, premium series B's are heavier, have larger frames, wheels and have more advanced features. It all comes down to availability, price and settling on just how you intend to use the tractor. My humble advice would be to decide on those things and not be too particularly impressed or bedazzled with the horse power ratings.
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Welcome to the forum. There's lots of Kubota guys here that can and will help with just about any problem or question that you can come up with. Very knowledgeable group here and they are always willing to help.

Welcome and enjoy!

Be sure to post some pictures of the new machine when you make your decision.
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Welcome aboard Steve. As BP Fick pointed out, the B series is where you want to concentrate.
re. size difference between B series models. Yes there is a noticable size difference between models. Size, weight and capaciies are the main differentiators.

Heres a basic breakdown:
Basic models.
B2320, smallest of the "basic" B series. Has both size, weight, ground clearance & power/capacities over the smaller BX series.

B2620, next size up and considered the "sweet spot" in the small basic B class.
It has a larger frame, engine, loader, wheels and all around hydraulic capacities over the B2320. Course this comes at a cost.

B2920. Same size and capacities as the B2620 w/the exception of a larger engine and more PTO hp. Basically this model gives more rear PTO power which may be useful for runnign chippers, pto generators and other implements that require slightly more than the B2620 provides.

B3200. Large basic B series. Bigger in every way over the B2620/B2920.

B2630, premium B series. Size and capacities are similar to the larger B3200 (except engine hp) and has more bells and whistles (3ph position control, tilt steering wheel, telescoping 3PH lower links and few more).
Those bells & whistles come at a price.

B3030, premium large B series. Same physical size as the B2630 wth same capacities but w/a larger 30hp engine. What distinquishes this over the B22630 is that it also can be equipped w/a factory OEM cab w/heat & A/C. This is the most expensive of the B series.

There are some newer models coming ( and some older models that have just been recentrly replaced) but the above should cover the basics.
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Welcome aboard Steve. As BP Fick pointed out, the B series is where you want to concentrate.
re. size difference between B series models. Yes there is a noticable size difference between models. Size, weight and capaciies are the main differentiators.

Heres a basic breakdown:
Basic models.
B2320, smallest of the "basic" B series. Has both size, weight, ground clearance & power/capacities over the smaller BX series.

B2620, next size up and considered the "sweet spot" in the small basic B class.
It has a larger frame, engine, loader, wheels and all around hydraulic capacities over the B2320. Course this comes at a cost.

B2920. Same size and capacities as the B2620 w/the exception of a larger engine and more PTO hp. Basically this model gives more rear PTO power which may be useful for runnign chippers, pto generators and other implements that require slightly more than the B2620 provides.

B3200. Large basic B series. Bigger in every way over the B2620/B2920.

B2630, premium B series. Size and capacities are similar to the larger B3200 (except engine hp) and has more bells and whistles (3ph position control, tilt steering wheel, telescoping 3PH lower links and few more).
Those bells & whistles come at a price.

B3030, premium large B series. Same physical size as the B2630 wth same capacities but w/a larger 30hp engine. What distinquishes this over the B22630 is that it also can be equipped w/a factory OEM cab w/heat & A/C. This is the most expensive of the B series.

There are some newer models coming ( and some older models that have just been recentrly replaced) but the above should cover the basics.
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Dave,

I was poking around trying to educate myself about the B-series -- just out of curiosity as these are too big for my needs. I had been wondering about the distinction between the Bxx20-series, and the Bxx30 series. Your run-down above was very helpful (although, I still wonder why Kubota concurrently makes so many "B" models with overlapping capabilities?)

I was intrigued by your comment that "there are some newer models coming". Would you have any new info to share? Also, have you heard if there are any changes to the BX lineup contemplated?

Thanks.
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Good questions UrbanTractor
re. Kubota's B series. I can definitely see where a novis could get confused w/the B series lineup but when one compares the spec's and price points it starts to make more sense.
I think what Kubota is trying to do is provide as much tractor as they can profitably for a particular price point. For less than $1000 you can move up from the SCUT class (BX) into the CUT class (B2320) and get more power, more capacities and higher ground clearance. For 1K - 2K more you can move up to a bigger frame and more everything else w/the B2620. If you need even more pto hp to power larger rear pto driven implements you can move up for another 1K - 2K more to the B2920.
Now if you want to spend some more money because you need an bigger tractor, but not as big as the small L series, 1K - 2K more w/get you into a B3200.
The B3200 is rated for much bigger and heavier implements than the B2320/B2620/B2920 but it still has a lighter footprint than the L's which makes it easier on finished turf.
If you still want the lighter footprint of the B series but want more bells and whistles like position control, tilt steering, telescoping 3ph arms etc., and 26hp - 30 hp will work for you you can then move up into the premium B2630 or B3030. And finally, if you want all the benefits of the B series in a heated and A/C conditioned cab then the B3030HSDC is available.
My pricing examples aren't exactly accurate but they're in the ballpark.
These machines aren't cheap and most folks balk at dropping the large green on something they won't use everyday so keeping their products competitively priced is my guess as to why they make so many models in the B series.

re. new models. The BX's and standard B's have just recently been upgraded but the premium B's (B2630 & B3030) have been around for quite awhile now and I've been seeing references to a new replacement for the B3030. I don't know what the upgrades will be nor have I seen anything mentioned about the B2630 but I imagine it'll be upgraded but thats a swag on my part.
Sometimes Kubota tries to fill a nitch w/a special run model like the old B7510 Turf Special and the new B3300SU so it can get highly confusing trying to keep up with them
Clear as mud?

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Dave,

Thanks so much for that. While this B series is confusing to a novice, your explanation suggests that there is method to the madness -- I guess Kubota must know what they're doing.

Thanks for that pricing info, too. Just for a more apples-to-apples comparison, what would be your estimate of the price delta between a B2620, and a B2630? In other words, what do those premium features cost?

In looking these over, one interesting thing I noticed is the HP ratings of the engines as compared to the BX series. For instance, BPFick's B2320 engine is rated at 23/17 hp, which makes it seem comparable to the BX 2360. But, his tractor actually has the same engine as the BX 2660. The difference seems to be that the HP rating is taken at a lower rpm (2800 vs 3200) on the B series than on the BX series.

That makes the B2320 all the more impressive in my book. Same engine as the BX2660, on a somewhat larger platform. And yet, it has the same hydraulics capacity as the larger Bs.

I've read here on MTF where members (like you and BPFick) have suggested bumping up to the B series if someone needs the larger BXs with higher HP. I think I'm beginning to understand where you're coming from.
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Steve,
Thought I would wade in here. For your needs, requiring manuverabiblity, landscaping, and trail maintenance, I would recommend the B2320 with a backhoe. I started with a used BX23, then traded it for a new BX25. Then I added a B3030 for snow removal in the winter. If I were to do it all over again, I would of started with the B2320 and hoe.
I think it is important to remember, there are no wrong answers when buying a tractor. If you don't like it, you simply trade it in. Life is too short.
Go to a dealer that will let you test ride em all, then make a decision.
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I recently bought a B2620 and was looking at all the B's. The reason I went with the 2620 was becuase of price and manuverability. I wanted a 2630 but was just out of my price range (I belive it was over $2000 more). As far as the 2320, and 2620/2920 there is a diff. as far as loader capacity and size. The 2320 is a little smaller in length and width and has a reduced loader capacity (about 80lbs if my memory serves me).
I feel the 2620 is the sweet spot for manuveralbility and loader capacity, love mine. Just look close on the specs as there are some small changes between models other than just HP.

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I recently bought a B2620 and was looking at all the B's. The reason I went with the 2620 was becuase of price and manuverability. I wanted a 2630 but was just out of my price range (I belive it was over $2000 more). As far as the 2320, and 2620/2920 there is a diff. as far as loader capacity and size. The 2320 is a little smaller in length and width and has a reduced loader capacity (about 80lbs if my memory serves me).
I feel the 2620 is the sweet spot for manuveralbility and loader capacity, love mine. Just look close on the specs as there are some small changes between models other than just HP.

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I'm right in sync with Brad's observations. For me, the 2320 fit the bill. I wanted "just that little bit bigger" than the BX series and "just that little bit smaller" than the 2620/2920. It's worked out really well. I especially like the higher ground clearance and rad-cooled HST. But you know what? If I'd gone one notch higher or lower, I think I'd be just as happy. These machines are such little brutes that if your best guess is anywhere close to the ballpark, I think you'll be happy. JMO, of course. If missing the perfect size means I have to make an extra couple of passes, it's no biggee. And if I were to get 1 or 2 sizes bigger (within the B series), it might mean I get done in a few passes less. Which means - since they're so dang fun - that I probably would stay on the tractor anyway and re-do a few passes!
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I'm right in sync with Brad's observations. For me, the 2320 fit the bill. I wanted "just that little bit bigger" than the BX series and "just that little bit smaller" than the 2620/2920. It's worked out really well. I especially like the higher ground clearance and rad-cooled HST. But you know what? If I'd gone one notch higher or lower, I think I'd be just as happy. These machines are such little brutes that if your best guess is anywhere close to the ballpark, I think you'll be happy. JMO, of course. If missing the perfect size means I have to make an extra couple of passes, it's no biggee. And if I were to get 1 or 2 sizes bigger (within the B series), it might mean I get done in a few passes less. Which means - since they're so dang fun - that I probably would stay on the tractor anyway and re-do a few passes!
hi guys,

i'm considering a 2320 with loader only. i wonder what kind of pricing i'll get here in new england?
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i'm considering a 2320 with loader only. i wonder what kind of pricing i'll get here in new england?
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Hello, Sid. You might find it useful to check the "build your own" function on Kubota's website. Easy to use, and lets you play with different options. Could be your best bet if you want fairly accurate pricing info. You'd at least have an MSRP starting point when you talk to dealers in your area.

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Hello, Sid. You might find it useful to check the "build your own" function on Kubota's website. Easy to use, and lets you play with different options. Could be your best bet if you want fairly accurate pricing info. You'd at least have an MSRP starting point when you talk to dealers in your area.

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Thanks...I just used the pricer and here's what I came up with:

2320
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Base MSRP including selected tires $12,755.00
Optional Valves $700.00
Ballast Box $211.00
Loader $2,769.00
Total Configured Price of Model $16,435.00


Came up with $16,435.00

I wonder how the dealers in NH will quote

It looks like the 0% for 48 months is in effect thru 3/31.
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I think that "optional hydraulic valve" is required for the loader. At least, that's how it works on the BX series (I've read that this valve previously was standard on the BX -- but no more). In other words, you can get the tractor without it, but you need it if you plan to add a loader (or anything else that requires hydraulic ports). So it's not really "optional" with an FEL purchase.
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I think that "optional hydraulic valve" is required for the loader. At least, that's how it works on the BX series (I've read that this valve previously was standard on the BX -- but no more). In other words, you can get the tractor without it, but you need it if you plan to add a loader (or anything else that requires hydraulic ports). So it's not really "optional" with an FEL purchase.
It's been awhile, but I seem to remember that "options" that were included with, say, a FEL were greyed out so you didn't add them in twice. My guess is that if it showed Sid a selectable option, it's in addition to the one required for the loader. It's probably remotes for use with a rear implement. Could be wrong, of course.
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