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post #1 of 13 Old 04-19-2017, 02:31 PM Thread Starter
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We've had a Craftsman DLT2000 (husqvarna) since 2002 which served us well for 15 years mowing 3 acres and snow blowing a dirt driveway with a 24873, especially considering that in that time I believe it saw a grand total of 5 oil changes (I was young and stupid... won't happen again). That deck took a lot of abuse too. Very glad for aftermarket mandrel housings.

It currently has a hard time starting. The battery reads a full 12v via my multimeter but it won't turn over unless I add on jumpers. Even then it turns over quite a bit (10 seconds?) before it really starts. After it starts it runs fine. The ammeter doesn't read anything at all (and by that I'm pretty sure it's busted outright - with the battery reading 12v on the multimeter I would expect it to show something, and negative when trying to start)

We've had a paid plow the past couple years as the snow thrower PTO pulley unit came apart and lost a pulley key and I was too lazy to get that sorted out (especially since having someone else plow your driveway does nothing but encourage laziness). I took care of that recently so it should be good for next season. We recently moved to a house with a long drive with slopped sides, so it doesn't lend itself well to plowing (no place to put the snow).

So with all that said.... we're looking to replace this tractor. Either with something that can use the same snow thrower or something better if we can find a good deal including a snow thrower.

I don't have any brand loyalty.

Would prefer a 48" deck. New house has a "hilly" lawn so any wider is just going to scalp.

Is there a cross reference sheet for what the 24873 snow thrower will fit? All I can find is the sears 2014 up-fit chart, which is now 3 years old and doesn't cover non-craftsman tractors. I saw a picture of a 42" john deere snow thrower for a LA175 and it looks *very* similar (even the PTO attachment), so I find it hard to imagine that the 24873 only fits 917.x craftsmans (and similar husqvarnas).

Our budget is variable but up to $4000 if it's a significant upgrade that will last a long time. We realize we could get away with $1500-2000 for a new 917.x compatible craftsman. That's our fall back plan. Though I've seen some used John Deeres with snow throwers that seem appealing if they're really going to last.

Any thoughts on these as good or bad deals?

JD 318
https://maine.craigslist.org/grd/6090546889.html
Other than being old... Any trouble finding parts for a 318? I love that it has hydraulics and can handle a small front end loader but hesitant to invest in something that old. Snow thrower looks very rusty as well. Owner says via email "1987. Moving to retirement community. The John Deere dealer came to house every year to perform the maintenance. No issues or quirks."

JD x320
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace...75474099249723
Short on details but it is nearby and I plan to go see it in the next week or so.
Price seems high.. I saw a x300 with snow thrower, 42" deck, bagger, and winter cab sell for only $4k yesterday (this doesn't include the bagger or temp-cab), so if I look at this some more I would expect to talk them down. If this really is priced too high, what *would* be a fair price?

Thoughts welcome and thanks in advance.

As a newbie to this site I poked around looking for the best place to post this and settled on this sub-forum. If I was off on that please point me in the right direction.

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post #2 of 13 Old 04-19-2017, 06:22 PM
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A fully charged 12 volt battery that is in good working order should measure around 12.5 volts when the engine is not running and there is no load on the battery. When the engine is running the voltage across the battery should measure between 13.8 and 14.5 volts if the charging circuit is working properly.

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Prices vary depending on what part of the country you ar ein, but around here in southeastern PA both of those are a little high on price and would sit on craigslist for quite a while before they sold, if they sold at all.

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Thanks Nouveau,

I'll check the battery again after I mow the lawn for the first time this summer. Still snow in the way at the moment so it will be a few weeks.

Assuming they have been taken care of, what would you say are fair prices for those listings?

The idea of having real hydraulics like that 318 is sounding more appealing to me. Is there a guide somewhere that lists which of the smaller JDs have hydraulics?
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This looks like it may have potential..
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace...63002654011484
I sent them a request for more info.

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I'm no expert when it comes to used tractors, however, I do know the JD 318 is a classic that is one of the most sought after used tractors today. That particular one looks to be in tremendous condition. There doesn't seem to be much rust any where and the paint still glistens. And, for being 30 years old it doesn't have many hours at all. That machine was babied.

The snowblower looks to be in great shape too. There is certainly some rust, but that is to be expected. And, in my opinion, there isn't much rust at all.

The price might be a bit high, however, the owner wouldn't be the first person on CL ever to shoot for the moon. Others here will probably be able to give you a better idea of what it's worth, however, just do a search on CL for JD 318 and you should get a pretty good idea. Look in other counties besides your own too, that should work nicely. In the end, it's worth what someone is willing to pay for it.

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Thanks Ilovetomow. Think anyone will yell at me if I post the JD specific questions in the JD section? This thread doesn't seem to be getting much attention.

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Thanks Ilovetomow. Think anyone will yell at me if I post the JD specific questions in the JD section? This thread doesn't seem to be getting much attention.

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Thanks.

Didn't know how sensitive this forum is as it pertains to cross posting.
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That second 318 you posted seems like a more fair price. The only difference I can see is the first one has the bagger which isn't worth the almost $1000.00 difference in the asking prices.

The first one with the bagger might be worth $3200.00 around here, but again, as I said, prices vary from one part of the country to another.

The X320 would also go for around $3200.00 to maybe $3500.00 tops around here. The funny thing is that X320 has the bracket on the back for the JD soft weather enclosure, but the tractor is sitting in snow and it doesn't have the enclosure mounted, and it doesn't list it in the description. If it did have the weather enclosure it would be worth $200.00 to $300.00 more, maybe more in colder climates.

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Many thanks. This is exactly the type of information I'm looking for.

After looking at prices for a 44 Loader (which is the main reason I would want the 318/something with hydraulics) and seeing how hard they are to find I've concluded that I'll probably never put out the cash for that anyway. Conveniently, that 2nd 318 just sold today. So that also helps make my decision easier.

So back to the x320... The person who made the listing says it has 212 hours on it and referred me to her husband (who I'll call soon).

Sounds like - if it's in good shape - offering $3400 and a little more if they have the enclosure would be fair. (?)

Is the x320 known to hold up well? Marketing has lead me to believe that anything green and yellow that didn't come form home depot will hold up great, but I never know if that remains true for the newer models.

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The X320 is a very good high end lawn tractor. The only weak spot is the transaxle. It has the Tuff Torq K58, which is a step up from the K46 that most entry level lawn tractors use, but it's still not a true ground engaging transaxle like a garden tractor would have. As long as you don't use it extensively on hills or try to use ground engaging implements like a garden plow it should last a good long time. The only other thing that puts stress on a transaxle would be plowing snow, but since that one comes with a blower, you shouldn't have to worry about that.

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I bought a new 318( got two) do not remember the year but loved the tractor . The first one lasted 10 minutes and burnt to the ground . Dealer replaced it and it is still running .
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