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post #31 of 51 Old 04-05-2007, 10:02 AM
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i've been an eBay member for 7+ years and have sold a ton of stuff under my two accounts. The new listing format seems to work fine using Firefox v1.0 on OSX (mac os)

it's always a love / hate relationship. Right now eBay is scamming me for a 32 buck loan. I paid my seller fees via paypal and almost immediately my seller account was updated to a zero balance and received paypal payment confirmation. Four days later eBay decides to bill my credit card for seller fees and states they will not refund overcharge for 30 days - eBay policy. Now 32 buck loan to ebay won't put me on the street, just the principle of the thing. If they overcharge 5% of sellers 30 bucks, they just found a large interest free loan for 30 days - scam!!!
I just sent them a nice note stating i will refuse charge through Chase and they can borrow Chase's money since they have more then I do. Not to mention, gonna drop Chase an email stating I believe eBay has unethicial business practices. okey: insert pokey smilie here ; )

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post #32 of 51 Old 10-13-2008, 09:59 PM
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I've been on ebay since 04 & have over a 300 point rating at 100% I sell some, but mostly buy!

My 1st scam was I bought 2 computer mice from a guy in HongKong for $0.01 each $14.98 total shipping . . . when they arrived . . . they did not work, I contacted seller, and he said just put them back in the envelope (it was only tied with a string around a botton!) and dropped it in any mailbox with return to sender, I told him I could not do that as it is illegal here to do that since I had opened it, after 4 - 5 emails to him, and a phone call to HongKong! I contacted paypal . . . they said that I could get the sales price back IF I sent it back to him with verifiable confirmation of deliver (USPS does not offer that service) UPS & FedEx wanted over $25 to ship it so I could get my $0.02 back! I don't deal with other countries anymore . . .

My scond scam was this past summer, I bought a BRAND NEW DVD of gps software with unlock code . . . when it arrived . . . the unlock code was printed on a plain white piece of paper, I could not get it to unlock . . . I contacted Garmin CS and they told me that the software will only work on one unit, and that it can NOT be unloaded from one, and reloaded on another! I contacted seller, he denied evrything, and called me an idiot because I did not know what I was doing, and what I had bid on (he had a 2 rating!) I contacted paypal, and started a claim, for some really stupid reason they sided with the seller! Garmin told me what date the unlock code was used on, what the model # of unit was, and it's ser#! I called Citibank, and they told me to send it back to him . . . then we would open a dispute with paypal! if you ever use paypal only use your CC, because if you use your bank account, you are pretty much out of luck, same same with your paypal balance (I always suck out my paypal balance as soon as it gets there!)

Last scam was a few weeks ago . . . my wife wanted a digital Bible, I won a used one for $11.05, shipping was $8.12, what I did not realise was that the "glare" on the screen was actually the screen was messed up, and I could not see 1/4 of the screen! I had asked PRIOR to bidding if it was in good working condition, she replied back that yes it was in Great condition! (she even put my ? and her answer in the auction) She was smart enough to put insurance on it, so I will get my $11 back, but not the $8, and she sold me WORTHLESS JUNK and keeps everything! Both ebay and paypal REQUIRE that YOU send the item back at YOUR expense, unless it is stated in the auction otherwise.

Be carefull . . . ask lots of questions, document EVERYTHING!
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I've sold quite a few items on Ebay. I remember I was selling a touch screen monitor on Ebay, it didn't sell, but someone contacted me that they wanted to buy it after the auction was over, but they wanted to use Western Union instead of Paypal. I've never used Western Union before this. I set up an account and got two offical looking emails that the funds have been deposited into your account, so I shipped the monitor. Later that night, I couldn't understand why the funds were not credited to my Western union account yet. Suspicious I look another look at the emails I recieved, and looked at the header information on the emails, It didn't match the header information I recieved when setting up the account with Western Union. Having a UPS account, I was able to contact UPS and tell the driver NOT to deliver. I got the monitor back and UPS even refunded the shipping because it wasn't deleivered. It was a close one, but i learned my lesson, if the deal seems too good to be true, It proably is.

I proably sold about 25k worth of stuff on Ebay so far, I never been scammed yet, but I had a few Paypal disputes against me that were settled in my favor.

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(1) Read the item description carefully. Don't make any assumptions about the item. If the seller doesn't show something clearly in a picture or doesn't plainly say something in the description, assume the worse about it and you won't be disappointed. ...
LOL. That's a funny one, I remember when the Xbox 360 first came out before xmas. People were selling empty boxes, it even stated that in the description, and people were bidding on them. I emailed a few "winners" telling them didn't they realize they just won an auction for an empty box.

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I've sold quite a few items on Ebay. I remember I was selling a touch screen monitor on Ebay, it didn't sell, but someone contacted me that they wanted to buy it after the auction was over, but they wanted to use Western Union instead of Paypal.
It's a guaranteed scam whenever the words "Western Union" come up.
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I've been on e-Bay since 1999 and have over 370 trades. I mostly sell but buy stuff also and the only time I've been burned has been by buyers. Once a buyer damaged an item of electronics I sent to them and even though I refunded everything they gave me a negative rating. The other time I got a really weird situation where the buyer got upset because the item was damaged in transit and UPS returned it to me, the buyer insisted that i was trying to cheat him even though I gave him all his money back. I just don't get it but I do love e-Bay. I shop carefully, read the feed back and use Pay pal, its all good!

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I use CL mostly because most times I can see the item and meet the seller. I was ripped off though for a Kohler coil for a twin cylinder KT17. The guy showed a new coil, points and condenser in the Kohler box, said it was new, that he sold the tractor before the parts got there. It was several weeks after I got it before I opened it and went to install it. It was a old junk coil, burnt out points and condenser. When I called the guy the lady who answered(who previously said she was his wife) said she didn't know who he was, and I had the wrong number. I later did a ALL CL search and found the guy perpetrated the same fraud in several other city across the US.
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i bid on an auction that included 2 sears suburbans and a lot of attachments and 24 hrs before the auction ended he pulled the item without a chance on it finishing and before the real bidding began. i was the hi bidder at 1200 and was seriously interested because of the onan powered sears 18 and the elect 3 point. the seller stated he had received many emails from people wanting to buy the implements separate and that he had lowered the reserve. after about 10 minutes he listed that he was gonna pull the listing and that if you wanted to contact him about the other items he would accept offers and that h was selling the tractors separate. I reported this to ebay in hopes that this kind of BS doesn't continue tractorrecycler is his seller ID
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I did a second chance offer on E-bay and it worked out. The tractor was going more than I was willing to pay so I let it go, a few days later I got the second chance offer w/ the guys #, I called him the next day, got the tractor for my last bid offer, I went to his house, paid cash, and it was all good!
I can see if you were to do this long distance how it would be wrong, I was lucky.
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Looks like my post will be the first on this thread in over a year. This Ebay subject is something near and dear to my heart, so pardon in advance for a sort of long post.

With all the purchases I've made on Ebay, I've been satisfied with about 98% of the sellers. I give good feedback whenever it's earned, and I've developed good relationships with several sellers.

Of the hundreds of things I've bought on Ebay I've been flat-out ripped off twice. Once was on an Escort engine. I won the bid, but the seller never responded. He decided he wanted to sell it to someone else locally for much more than my winning bid. But nowhere in the bidding text did he say he was doing that, and he actually called me stupid for believing I was going to get the engine for that price. Nice guy. Gave me my only bad feedback on ebay.

The other time, the seller just quit responding after I won the bid and sent money (stupid me, I sent a check). She took the money and ran. Ebay was basically of no help on this. They actually said, 'Sorry but we can't MAKE someone sell you something... ' How nice, again. All they could do was shut down her account, like I'm sure she really cared. Lesson from this: USE PAYPAL.

About PAYPAL: I remember when PayPal got hacked several years ago, and a bunch of people lost a lot of their bank funds. As I recall, it got ugly with banks and lawyers, and it took a long time for those folks to get their money back. So for a long time I didn't trust PayPal. But they seem to have their act together these days, so I'm carefully extending some trust their way now. I have a little 'dummy' account that I set up, into which I put just a little $$ now and then for things like PayPal. They won't get the account routing numbers for the main accnts, only this little utility account. That seems safe enough, and it seems to be working well for folks these days.

Am I bitter from those ripoffs? Well no, overall not. Aside from those two incidents, the hundreds of other purchases have been very positive. You gotta have common sense -- basically know what you're looking at, know about what it's worth, and if at ALL possible, especially on a big ticket item like a mower for example -- go LOOK at it and try to check it out before you commit to a bid. I know, I know, with Ebay being strung out all over the world, that isn't always possible or practical... but still, just saying.

For example, I bought my Wards Signature 2000 mower (the one in my avitar) on Ebay. The seller said, "Mower seems to run fine." Read that carefully. Key word being SEEMS. This guy was (and maybe still is) a truck driver. Not that in any way do I fault truckers... but he was apparetly one of these folks who supplements income by hitting auctions, picking up stuff he can resell. He didn't know that much about mowers in general, or this one in particular. He was just tryin to re-sell it for as much as he could get for it.

Well, after I got it, I found this mower 'ran' in only the barest sense of the word. The engine burned more oil than the Queen Mary. Smoked like crazy -- I thought the neighbors were gonna call the fire dept on me. The steering was loose as a goose. The blades were as dull as Aunt Edna's family album. Definately this old girl had been as they say, 'rode hard and put away wet'.

Over the years I've fixed up all these issues... BUT that wasn't what I wanted. I didn't want a mower I had to refurbish. I wanted a mower I could put on the ground and start using it right now. That's what I THOUGHT I was buying. If I'd been able to get a hands-on inspection of this machine, I would have probably moved on and looked elsewhere. Lesson from this: CHECK IT OUT personally, if possible.

Ok, that's my Ebay comments. Thanks for reading.
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She took the money and ran. Ebay was basically of no help on this. They actually said, 'Sorry but we can't MAKE someone sell you something... ' How nice, again. All they could do was shut down her account, like I'm sure she really cared. Lesson from this: USE PAYPAL.
Did they actually shut her down? My experience with eBay is that they will do nothing to sellers who rip off buyers who pay by check. The goal is to make you use Paypal, which is now owned by eBay, so eBay gets yet another cut on the deal. On the other hand, they will automatically side with the buyer in a dispute if Paypal is used.

Enough complaining about eBay and Paypal. eBAy is a good place to find stuff. Your best protection is the Seller's feedback. Check it out. If they have a lot of sales and a high feedback rating, you should be ok.
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Did they actually shut her down? My experience with eBay is that they will do nothing to sellers who rip off buyers who pay by check. The goal is to make you use Paypal, which is now owned by eBay, so eBay gets yet another cut on the deal. On the other hand, they will automatically side with the buyer in a dispute if Paypal is used.

Enough complaining about eBay and Paypal. eBAy is a good place to find stuff. Your best protection is the Seller's feedback. Check it out. If they have a lot of sales and a high feedback rating, you should be ok.

Hi Oldebonnie,

Yeah it appeared that they actually dud shut her down. As I recall, I was trying to by a Briggs motor from her for 200 bucks. But it's been so many years ago now, and I've since began using Paypal, so I chalk it up to lessons learned from the School of Hard Knocks. Karma will catch up to her eventually, if it hasn't done so already. As for me, I'm hoping that the next engine I buy will be a new one, preferably with a new tractor wrapped around it .
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I listed a component of the Norden bomb sight with the statement that I'd only ship it by Registered Mail, due to the scarcity and value. I got into an online argument with a cheap idiot who claimed I was trying to rip him off. Something bothered me, so I blocked him as a bidder BEFORE he placed a bid. Man was he honked, but what really honked him was when I told him I destroy it before I sold it to him. It went to a new home at a fair price. His loss.

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Use Pay Pal! I bought a Kubota tractor on Ebay from a guy last week, based on the pictures and description I was lead to believe it was a super clean, low hour machine. I bid to win and paid him with cash at pick up. Looking back as soon as I laid eyes on the machine I should have walked away and dealt with what ever situation would have came up at the time from doing so rather than handing over, over $600 cash to the guy. The tractor was described as having great paint, great tires, smooth hydro and low hours. Once I got it home I found that the trans was weak and it wouldn’t pull a hill, the tires are totally dry rotted and have lost air in my garage, the deck bearings howl and the paint is far from perfect! Luckily I was able to get the trans issue figured out, it was a seized up tensioner arm and a bad belt. Anyway I filed a complaint with Ebay because the seller got nasty with me immediately, “I sent him an email within 2 hours of picking it up about the trans slipping”. He offered to take the tractor back for a $500 return fee, what type of a reputable seller does that??? Anyway after a few days of deliberating on Ebays side I got an email from a customer support manager, she told me that had I paid him with Pay Pal that she would have reversed my payment and HE would have been liable to come pick the tractor back up, not only because of its actual condition vs what it was described as but because of his very poor attitude and unwillingness to even work with me . Lesson learned, if you get a bad gut feeling as soon as you walk up to a situation, seller or first glimpse of something, WALK away and 2nd use PayPal for ALL transactions, I don’t care if they charge the seller a fee, I will NEVER go through this again!

I paid for that tractor within 24 hours of the auction closing and he got NASTY with me. After everything was said and done I even left the guy a good feedback point and sent him an email telling him that I was taking the high road on the situation since Ebay decided in his favor, he emails me back and says “ Are you serious, that isn’t going to happen” then proceeded to tell me that I was harassing him! Anyway, I thought I would share my last Ebay tractor buying story… Oh, don’t ever do any business with a guy out of Smithsburg MD that goes by Shotgunb because if there is any type of an issue he will turn NASTY once he has your money in his hands and wont be willing to work with you AT ALL….

Another Ebay lesson, don’t buy and pay for items that are way away! I drove to Decatur Illinois back in 2004 to pick up a Kawasaki ZRX1100 that was described as like new. We got there at night, in the rain and it did look new, started right up and sounded incredible. I rode it up onto my truck and left. 13 hours later I got home and took it out for a ride to find it had NO 2nd gear! The guy tells me that I should have test rode it, again I got screwed over bad!! The other time I drove far away was to Utica NY to pick up a 2003 Kawasaki KLR650, I paid for it in full with Pay Pal, drove all day to pick it up to find it was crashed the night before, the guy “took it out for one last ride” and rear ended a parked car! He didn’t call me because he was in the ER… That DID not go over well, I got my $$ back and he gave me $100 for gas but man, I drove ALL day for nothing in my old Toyota pickup. Anyway, watch yourselves on Ebay, some sellers, even with a lot of good feedback like Mr Shotgun B are only out for themselves and are quick to turn on you after the sale.

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ALWAYS use PAYPAL!!

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