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post #1 of 16 Old 05-18-2017, 10:08 AM Thread Starter
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First Gravely questions

I recently purchased a 5665 with tiller from a guy who used it for his landscaping business. When he was showing it to me it fired up right away and ran fairly well. When I got it home it won't even turn over or even make a sound. I did get it running once, but I have not been able to again. Is there a safety switch, or something that I am not doing right? The guy I got it from said the pto needs to be off for it to start and it is. I am wondering about the pto linkage, it seems loose so maybe thats the problem? It seems to be an electrical problem, but the battery is good and the connections all seem solid.

I have attached some pictures of the tractor and the pto lever. The second picture the pto shifter is all the way forward so in the off position. The two bolts in the second picture seem very loose. I can spin them easily by hand and nothing seems to get tighter. Is that how it's supposed to be?

One other thing. Running it in high gear seems to slip. Is there an adjustment for this or is that a sign of a problem?

I have read a lot of great things about Gravely tractors, mostly on this forum, and I am excited to use it. I would love to get a mower deck and a rotary plow for it.

Thank you for any thoughts or advice.
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On that model I don't believe there are any safetys. Yeah the PTO should be off, and there may be some slop in it. I would check to see if the 2 bolts holding the shipper shaft are not loose. As far as starting, choke out, give it a lil throttle, and crank it over. Once is fires off, shut the choke, and it should be good to go. There is an adjustment on the end of the engagement rod, double nuts with spring connected to the lever down by the axle.

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Check the conector on the switch...you may also have a bad solenoid. It could be from a bouncy ride home, could be completely coincidence.

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post #4 of 16 Old 05-18-2017, 01:40 PM Thread Starter
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I will check the solenoid as soon as I can, hopefully tomorrow evening. I am not finding any specific Kohler k301 solenoids. Is that something that is Gravely specific?
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Any garden-tractor type solenoid should work. As long as you can mount it; the electrics are all the same.

Ditto on the switch connector. I think that's the single largest cause of starting problems on my machines. At least on the ones with switches . . .

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Good to know about the solenoid.

To check the switch connector just make sure it's not loose? Or do they actually go bad?

What about the bolts on the pto switch? Should those just rotate around? or should I tighten those somehow? I realize they can't be completely tight because then the pto switch wouldn't be able to rotate, but can they be too loose? and if so how would I even tighten them?

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THe bolts for the PTO mechanism are supposed to be tight. If it were mine, I would remove the bolts and spacers, check for wear and replace as needed. Sometimes all it needs is to be tightened. Maybe try tightening them first as replacing the bolts can be tricky.

To tighten:

1 - make sure the PTO is disengaged.
2 - Take the front attachment off,
3 - Take off the quick hitch adapter

now you can get at the heads of the bolts with a wrench.

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Thanks I was wondering how to get to them.
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I guess that model doesn't have a magneto? Apparently not or it would have been mentioned, or does the solenoid cover that? Hope you get er' goin.
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Good to know about the solenoid.

To check the switch connector just make sure it's not loose? Or do they actually go bad?

What about the bolts on the pto switch? Should those just rotate around? or should I tighten those somehow? I realize they can't be completely tight because then the pto switch wouldn't be able to rotate, but can they be too loose? and if so how would I even tighten them?

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Check the connector to see if it's loose, then check it for a burnt connector, then you would need to check the switch with a meter to see if things are making contact when the key is moved.

The switches go bad, I've replaced the switch in every tractor I've owned. I've also found the connector melted off. And I've found bad wiring (completely rewired my C10a).

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The connection seemed tight, but I should have time this evening and weekend to dig into it and test things out. I had a few minutes to look at it last night and the solenoid was not clicking at all when I turned the key. So it's either bad, or there's a bad connection somewhere?

Thanks for all the advice.
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Also check the connections at the battery, make sure your getting 12vdc into the system.

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the key switches are pretty notorious for going bad as well...could be that

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Success!
My father-in-law was here this evening and helped me search for electrical issues. The fuse between the switch and solenoid was not connecting. I guess the spring might be too compressed, but I soldered a little bulge on the end of the fuse to give it more length and it got a good connection. Then turned the key after hooking everything back up and it roared to life. I was planning to clean out the carburetor because it ran a little rough at high speed, but noticed that the choke wouldn't open all the way. Then we discovered that the choke cable was fastened too close and was keeping it mostly closed. Adjusted that and now it runs great! I still might open up the carb and clean it, but we'll see.
Thanks for all the advice.
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You know it's a gravely owner when you hear...

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Success!
...now it runs great! I still might open up the carb and clean it...

Ha! I bet everyone on this forum has said that at least once!

Congrats on figuring it out...I hate electrical issue. They make me look and feel like a fool.
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