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post #1471 of 2099 Old 12-20-2015, 08:49 AM Thread Starter
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The cost saving for companies buying in large quantities doesn't translate into the cost to consumers buying repair/replacement parts. That's especially true when it's a one off specialty build of a no name "Cub Cadet" branded motor. Then there's that whole thing about how long companies are required to carry parts. With a proprietary EFI system you're just stuck. When that period (5-7 years IIRC) is up there's a really good chance repair parts are just NA. On a sub $2k lawn tractor this sounds like just one more step toward planned obsolescence.

Even if it was on a Kawasaki engine used by multiple manufacturers I question the need for this level of complexity. The carbureted system on mine works just fine thank you and if there's a problem you don't have to get out the Digital VOM meter to trouble shoot it.

Bottom line, with the engine offerings today I'd never even consider a single vs twin so for me this model is a non-starter regardless of the fuel system. But the fact that they've decided to introduce EFI on their bottom of the line engine should really be a read flag. I predict this will only be at the big box stores and none of the dealers will touch it.
I wouldn't want it at this time either for the reasons you stated. I like things simple, that's why I personally wanted a manual blade engagement. If its on an XT2 it wont be in any big box store, they only sell the XT2 at dealers. The XT1 is the big box store line. There are many technologies that started expensive and really became affordable, but as you said the cost to repair or check out may be to much. I wonder what those with the high dollar tractors are doing about repairs. Probably taking them to the dealers.

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post #1472 of 2099 Old 12-20-2015, 08:57 AM Thread Starter
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I just checked the Cub web site and the 547cc motor is available on the XT1 but it doesn't say EFI. The 547cc engine with EFI is only shown on the XT2 that is a dealer only model line. Unless it was made by Kawasaki I would not really care for it. It sounds like its a no name from what folks are saying and just made to certain specifications for Cub.

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JDs first experiment with EFI was on a lawn tractor and it was a flop. Within 2 or 3 years no parts were available and to replace that system you had to replace the engine. I did an engine replacement for a friend and he still has the tractor 27 years later. The EFI system not the original engine didn't last the first 4 years. Roger
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JDs first experiment with EFI was on a lawn tractor and it was a flop. Within 2 or 3 years no parts were available and to replace that system you had to replace the engine. I did an engine replacement for a friend and he still has the tractor 27 years later. The EFI system not the original engine didn't last the first 4 years. Roger
I think that's the point Bhayden was making. I guess we will see if turns out the same.

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Re: 2015 Cub Cadet XT Enduro

It might be based on this 547cc 12HP engine from China. Although in 547 C.C. Powermore trim Troy Bilt claims 20HP

It's almost certainly the Troy Bilt engine in this tractor:

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If it's a Briggs or Kohler they'd say so. If it was Briggs it would be 500cc or 540cc. If it was Kohler it would be 597cc and Kohler doesn't put EFI on anything I saw smaller than their 22HP V-Twin Command Pro.

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Interesting, I looked up Powermore and found the below link on an article. It says Powermore makes parts for Harley Davidson. They say they are made pretty well.

Who makes POWERMORE, Craftsman, Troy-Bilt, YardMan, Cub Cadet OHV Winterized Engines - MovingSnow.com

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Not really feeling somebody that says Husqvarna is made by MTD is an expert.

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Hi Ed, It is made by the same company (MTD) but it’s not the same lawn tractor. I believe it’s a Troy-Bilt Pony with a different hood.
But anyway, he's talking about Powermore branded engines for snow throwers which are a completely different animal. MTD contracts with "who ever" to manufacture a large number of engines and then slaps the Powermore brand on it. Powermore is not a real company like Briggs, Kohler, Kawasaki, et al. So different engines can be from different suppliers; some maybe decent, others not so much. And since it's just a "house brand" what's sold one year, or even mid year could change without them saying a word about it. When you go down to NAPA or Autozone what do you think the chances are they'll be able to look up even the right spark plug?

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Not really feeling somebody that says Husqvarna is made by MTD is an expert.

He said Huskee, not Husqvarna.

Huskee is manufactured by MTD.

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I have a MTD Pro walk behind single stage rubber paddle snow thrower MTD Pro that uses the 179cc Powermore engine. They say it is their house brand and it has worked great in the 3 years I have used it. Nice to have a small 4 stroke. Sure sounds different than the 2 stroke Suzuki my Toro had but throws snow as well or better as the Toro did. Roger
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He said Huskee, not Husqvarna.

Huskee is manufactured by MTD.

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I'm surprised they weren't sued for using that name. Anyway, not exactly glowing reviews. But what do people expect for a sub $1k riding mower?

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But anyway, he's talking about Powermore branded engines for snow throwers which are a completely different animal. MTD contracts with "who ever" to manufacture a large number of engines and then slaps the Powermore brand on it. Powermore is not a real company like Briggs, Kohler, Kawasaki, et al. So different engines can be from different suppliers; some maybe decent, others not so much. And since it's just a "house brand" what's sold one year, or even mid year could change without them saying a word about it. When you go down to NAPA or Autozone what do you think the chances are they'll be able to look up even the right spark plug?
Makes sense, I just stick with a Kawasaki.

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Merry Christmas to everyone. Did you get anything for your tractor?

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Re: 2015 Cub Cadet XT Enduro

Is anyone still cutting grass or mulching with there XT?

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Re: 2015 Cub Cadet XT Enduro

End of December and it was 81* today. I have patches of grass that need to be knocked down. If it quits raining long enough for the yard to dry up I'm going to have to hit it again.
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End of December and it was 81* today. I have patches of grass that need to be knocked down. If it quits raining long enough for the yard to dry up I'm going to have to hit it again.
We have the same here, when it dry's I need to level out grass.

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