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Old 04-07-2008, 07:32 PM   post #1 of 25
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Does anybody know of a good source for wheels and Ag tires? I'd like to mount Ag tires on their own rims for an easy and quick change-out. I plan on making a lot of use of my Johnny Bucket Sr. this summer, but I don't want to destroy the lawn by using Ag tires when cutting grass.

My 3206 uses 24X10.5x12 tires. CC rims are over $100 each. I'd go used if I can find them.
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Try Miller Tire Co Miller

I have used Ag tires for 5 years now on my lawn and I have NOT destroyed my lawn. In fact, I have better tractor and don't have those "scape outs" that turf tires cause when you loose traction.
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Gary,
I have brand new ags in stock right now. I have 23x8.5x12 and can get different sizes. I'm in Norther NJ and have cadet wheels also. Ags are Carlisle. I also have tri-ribs for the front. I think they are like 44.00each for the 8.5's. Tri ribs are 23.00 each and are 400x8. I'm not a tire dealer just buy a bunch of tires and sell them to some forum members.
By the way, all my tractos have ags on them and they don't cut up the lawn.
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The 24X10.5x12 size seems to be a real odd-ball. mmzullo, are you able to get this size?

Maybe I'll just try the Ag's on my current rims, and if they become a problem on the lawn, then I'll spend money on spare rims.
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I see that Carlisle has an AT101, 24x12-12 that is very close to what I need (23.8" mounted height vs 23.1). They are 1.5 inches wider, so I'll have to measure for clearance.

Looking at the load ratings, I now realize that I really need to change the front tires too. They are 16x7.5-8.

I hate it when a simple project gets less simple
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Try TSC if there is one around you. They had the ags, but not sure if they caried rims. You might find some at a local junkyard a lot cheaper.
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I see that Carlisle has an AT101, 24x12-12 that is very close to what I need (23.8" mounted height vs 23.1). They are 1.5 inches wider, so I'll have to measure for clearance.

Looking at the load ratings, I now realize that I really need to change the front tires too. They are 16x7.5-8.

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Carlisle Tru Power 23x10.5x12's are 23.3 dia x 10w with a load rating of 1350lbs @10Mph
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Carlisle Tru Power 23x10.5x12's are 23.3 dia x 10w with a load rating of 1350lbs @10Mph
That's good info there. I see that they have a 16x6.5-8 front tire that is close to what is used on my tractor (16x7.5-8) that has a 620 pound rating.
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I think the idea that Ag's tear up a yard comes from the fact that over the years people have tried to use Cubs, A's, Super A's, 8n's and other larger utitility type tractors to cut their yards with which on the average weigh anywhere from 3 to 4 times what the average garden tractor does. Usually the ags on a much lighter garden tractor don't tend to "bite" into your turf unless you have wet conditions.
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I can attest to he fact that if you put ag tires on with a johnny bucket you will tear up your lawn learning to load your bucket. I received my Johnny Bucket yesterday and am still getting use to it. I have dug quite a few holes with the ag's so far with about three hours use. I have enjoyed it so far.

I got my tires through local dealer because he said Cub still listed the 23X9.50's. When they arrived they were 23X8.50's. I have not loaded them yet or added wheel weights.
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Not to drag this out...

I measured my tires last night. The 24 x 10.5 tires are actually 23.1 x 10.5.

I think "24" is a result of "bigger is better" marketing.
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I put the 8.5's on my GT3100. They are incredible. Someone on here recommended I get the 8.5s from Tractor Supply and take them to some Good Ol boy tire shop and tell them to mount them, even if it seems like they won't fit. That is what I did and they are great. They don't mess up the yard during mowing and they work great giving traction with my Johnny Bucket. They will mess up the yard if you are doing excavation or something that requires muscle. Enjoy that Johnny Bucket. It is the best purchase I have made, along with my Cub Cadet.
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When you guys say "AG's" do you mean super lugs? I put my JBJR on my new 2542 2 days ago & have been doing a pretty good job of putting "skid marks" ( no not those kind of skid marks) all over my yard & got stuck in the mud once already.
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Yes, Ag's (short for agricultural), Lugs and Bars are "street lingo" for tractor tires with superior grip.

I saw your photo in the other thread. Indeed, for that type of digging you need lugs, weights...and dry ground. BTW, loose the deck when you dig.

I did find a great source for lugs at Michener's Grass Roots (www.mgrassroots.com). Best of all they are just 2 miles from where I work.
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Info for the 3000 series drivers:

I did purchase Carlisle Tru Power AT's in a 23x10.50-12 size. These tires at 23.3" are nearly identical to the 24x10.50-12 OEM tires. I payed $74.55 each, which is a great price.

This is a very aggressive tire with overlapping lugs, so the ride is as smooth as the turf tires.

http://www.carlisletire.com/products...at/catalog.pdf
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